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Really, all of cypherpunk / free software / ... is just trying to preserve boundaries that were unquestioned in the year 1900. * Your device serves you, not some gov or corp overlord * You can repair and modify your device to better serve you * Your private conversations are private * Your private money is private
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I think these were not normal in 1900 *at a distance*. You indeed had these guarantees over local/physical distance, but you just lose them over 100km (everyone reading your mail, etc.) The fun thing that happened was an inversion: we got privacy over long distance, but lost it over short-distance
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> we got privacy over long distance Careful, we're far from winning this game. It's a battle even to turn LLMs from becoming a privacy dystopia where openai, google and anthropic see everything.
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yep, wasn't saying we got privacy over long distance everywhere, only that it is now possible to have it fully encrypting everything also goes into the face of training ai models, so until we have good FHE/MPC systems to compute over encrypted data, there's less of an incentive to enable client-side encryption wrote a lil diagram on this on the topic: we're fully going top right quadrant (open & encrypted data), but it's going to take some time
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