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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
If Warpcast was open source, what are 1-2 things you would want to learn how we do?
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casslin.eth
@casslineth
Power badge, home feed + trending feed algorithms
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
Open source algorithms make it easier for spammers to game.
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Satoshi Tomatomoto
@tomato.eth
It also makes it easier for more good actors to help improve the algorithms, making them more resilient against spammers.
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
Here's the algo: 1. We define a set of good users 2. We look at who they engage with, give everyone a score, anyone above score X is defined as Group A 3. Who run that again with Group A, and create Group B How would you improve?
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Satoshi Tomatomoto
@tomato.eth
If I were an expert, which I'm not, I would need to know more details. For example: Who are the initial set of good users? How is the score in step 2 calculated? What is the value of X? If this were all open source, someone with enough knowledge (not me) might be able to propose tweaks that would improve the algo.
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
1. I don't need feedback on this. It's opinionated. Anyone not on it will complain. :) 2. Sum all inbound engagement. 3. Let's say it's 0.7. Are you really going to say it should be 0.65 or 0.5 based on looking at the list? :) Ultimately, the transparency will make it easier to game and people will still feel bad.
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Satoshi Tomatomoto
@tomato.eth
I'm curious what steps bad actors would be able to take take to game the system that they can't already take. They already know they need more engagement from badge holders. Of course people will still complain, but they might be able to do it in a more nuanced and productive way if they know specifics.
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
I guess it always comes back to -- no one ever offers a concrete alternative to the current system. People just want to know the inner workings of the current algorithm because curiosity around who is in the set. :)
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