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@toly Some thoughts after yesterday’s Solana downtime: 1. We were back up pretty dang fast - the social coordination layer allowed this 2. There’s a flip side to this. The majority of validators immediately updated their systems, before the code was thoroughly looked over by outside sources.
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More clients and more distributions help. Jito and fd don’t blindly rebase
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This makes sense. I trust with time then that we will be sufficiently distributed to make this more of a non issue - doesn’t seem like we’re there yet but I definitely see where we are going.
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Everything being open source would make the attack short lived. So there is some peace there. Although a short lived attack can be quite damaging
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The way I see it, I believe the social layer is going to ultimately be turned into the absolute last ditch - especially as we see solana take off into the future. It’s cool now, but as it gets bigger I believe rollbacks will become more and more difficult to coordinate.
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If social slashing and rollback is impossible to coordinate then the majority can do what it wants. The promise of the revolution can only survive as a perpetual revolution.
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I would agree. but am I wrong to believe that with more decentralization in software relating to running nodes, the chances of a chain crash go down? Let me ask you a more direct question - what could we have done differently here? What is going to keep issues like this from shutting down the chain in the future?
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Over the long term, absolutely. But some growing pains are likely, as we have seen on ethereum even.
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I’m extremely excited about firedancer though - we’re on a good track
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Guess we’ll just keep building then… it’s hard being this fast. All things considered, this all went very well. No price drop, system is back up and running. We’re doing something right. And we definitely have seen this on ethereum - but it’s been years since it’s had any downtime of this scale.
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