kepano
@kepano
Self-guaranteeing promises Companies break promises all the time. A self-guaranteeing promise does not require you to trust anyone. You can verify a self-guaranteeing promise yourself. https://stephango.com/self-guarantee
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shazow
@shazow.eth
Agreed with the self-guaranteeing premise, but "file over app" does not itself let us use our files in another app at any time without it behaving like an export. Files end up controlled by the sync mechanism. For example, if we use Obsidian Sync on mobile, we can't have another mobile app interact with the same files in a meaningful way. It effectively has to be "exported" then "imported" back in later.
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kepano
@kepano
What you're describing is only a limitation of iOS sandboxing and the sync mechanism you choose. Still, on iOS, file over app is self-guaranteeing because the files are local and in your control. Even without an internet connection you could easily switch to another app. You're not reliant on the company.
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shazow
@shazow.eth
Yes, we can export it to another app and use it there, I agree we aren't reliant on the company to allow this export. But I feel it's misrepresenting that "File over app" results in interop with other apps. It doesn't. Not just iOS sandboxing, but also Android and increasingly non-mobile operating systems too.
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Daniel Lombraña
@teleyinex.eth
Just think about the new line encoding on Windows vs Linux or CSV files. Some apps have a lot of trouble reading/parsing them. Also, UTF-8 and utf16. Yes, we can parse them, but in some cases, you still need to do some magic behind the scenes. The OKFN has worked on data interoperability for years, and in the end, unless someone uses and documents the encoding format, you end up in a cage. The size and strength of the bars represent how easy it is to get out. And don't get me wrong, Obsidian is one of the best.
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