Stephan
@stephancill
Tbh I’m so confused why the email example is used as an argument AGAINST federation The way I understand it email is arguably one of the most sufficiently decentralised parts of the internet today Sure most people use Gmail or outlook but it’s not even hard to use something else or even self host without any noticeable difference to anyone else (and plenty of people do!) If farcaster becomes anything like email it will be wildly successful at its goal of being sufficiently decentralised Worse developer experience is also debatable because I predict apps will index subsets of the network anyway as it grows too large to index in its entirety. Already saw this happening in some cases with power badge https://warpcast.com/dwr.eth/0x0c0f2718
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
Have tried spinning up a new email server or domain recently?
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Stephan
@stephancill
Yeah, I used gandi‘s hosted mail service for years with my domains until they raised their prices last year As for spinning up a mail server myself - I don’t trust my devops skills enough to keep it running myself It’s going to be totally infeasible for someone to self host a hub if farcaster reaches any sort of scale with its current architecture. With a federated architecture it will be much more feasible
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oligopoly-has-won.html The issue in a federated system is global state is permissioned.
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Stephan
@stephancill
My initial impression of this post is that hubs don’t inherently solve the deliverability issues raised because apps still have to index on top of hubs and I predict they will end up doing the same thing
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Stephan
@stephancill
And like I said, people won’t be running their own hubs if farcaster scales. As a matter of fact, odds of having many hub providers like neynar is less likely than in a federated system
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
Decentralization is about data being available to developers. It’s not apples to apples.
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