Steve
@sdv.eth
How do you onboard 1,000,000,000 people when you ignore the 10,000 that are still here? How do you make progress by replaying zero sum games solved in 2017? How can you call these experiments when there's nothing new in the equation?
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Michael Pfister
@pfista
if you're solving a big enough problem, pre-existing users don't matter
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Leeward Bound
@leewardbound
could not disagree more with *gestures broadly* that whole ethos
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Michael Pfister
@pfista
Why do you disagree?
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Leeward Bound
@leewardbound
it gives off very "well it didn't work the first 10 times but maybe burning down an eleventh orphanage will finally make the DOW go up" vibes seems like what you mean is "it didn't work in a small sample... but maybe it'll work at scale" and unless you have strong evidence and a solid thesis for *exactly why and how* that is true, and a way to test your theory before rolling it out, i think it basically boils down to baseless hopium a much more earnest and scientific take is to look at 5+yrs of data from NFTs and say "wow hyperfinancialization failed in both small and large scale experiments"
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Michael Pfister
@pfista
strong opinion loosely held: I was thinking about the generalized view of his first statement: "How do you onboard 1,000,000,000 people when you ignore the 10,000 that are still here?" These are vastly different orders of magnitude. Try getting 1b people to agree about something. It's very likely any ideas you have will roughly be hated by half and loved by half. To get to 1b from 10k, you'll have to make choices some users disagree with. And early, loyal users often feel justifiably betrayed when things inevitably change.
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Steve
@sdv.eth
I would note that the use of "still here" was very intentional. 4 years ago there were maybe millions of global users. We're probably closer to the 100,000s but imo it *feels* like 10,000s. We are not early. Bitcoin will be 20 years old in 3 years. Ethereum is a little over 10. My point is we can't look forward if we're unwilling to let go of the past.
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