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none of the loud pontificating about all this has been about disrespecting anyone. i have been here and watched how this stuff goes long enough to recognize what i am seeing that the farcaster establishment continues to refuse to recognize and i hope to god there is still a chance. the founder will not acknowledge it, but this is literally the effect of moves like the power badge implementation and now moxie. and it bums me out bigtime to see, and is a pattern i have been seeing for many months being a vigorous user of this app exploring all the interesting things going on. wake the fuck up; pls and thank you this is not rocket science type shit.

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sorry im out of the loop, what’re you recommending?

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well haha henlo - the arc i am on is that we should have embraced ham technology /lp whcih is essentially a more sophisticated and thoughtful version of the degen distribution model for monetization instead of pivotting so hard to accommodate for this much more extreme and untested model that has opened up quite a can of worms and a host of centralized pitfalls to deal with and is very clearly driving away real users much like the introduction of power badges did. i guess thats sort of my thesis summed up.

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okay, kinda get it but still out of the loop. who pivoted? who is accommodating? who is driving ham because ive never been onboarded or educated about it?

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there’s a ham chain L3 that settles to base that facilitates on chain tips @deployer is building hamcaster which uses your ham score to distribute your allocated ham tips on chain each day to your caster token holders (erc20) your ham score comes from your social presence in /lp and onchain holdings for the ham ecosystem here’s a good summary of that: https://warpcast.com/deployer/0x9c268aed

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also deployer built an ENS like registrar for people to make their erc20s tippable automatically anyway on farcaster

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shall we carry on about all the problem solving inventions he developed inspired by degen tipping? i mean did we emphasize at least like 3 times over that he successfully moved tipping all on chain eliminating soooo many of the hangups we experienced at times with degen? ( just to start) ? floaties? hamcaster? good lord the man is a juggernaut

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onchain is the wei he also built PHAM which is basically an index fund for base memecoins including degen, doginme and some others

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oh not to mention that we got tha memes baby the recipe is impeccable, and yet farcaster leadershipp and “elite” class has chosen wishy washy corporate alliances instead. which is very out of touch, as usual

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see, i like the idea of HAM but this type of meme just doesn't do it for me (presumably because i had zero context about it before now)

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thats totally fine it is secondary to the cutting edge technology.

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well... the average person who sees this who is also out of the loop and not curious to ask isn't going to know about the cutting edge technology and instead may report it as spam 🙃

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also average ppl fucking love memes. that is the day and age we live in and it is part of the cultural language whether you are yourself in touch with that or not (no offense)

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If you don’t mind, I want to bud in here. I used to regularly post in /lp and tried my best to be a part of the culture. I gave up a little while back because I couldn’t keep up with the meme culture. It’s hard to mix memes into what I do. So while I agree we are a meme culture more and more each day, that’s not all there is here. I needed to move to places in Farcaster where I could share art. Ham doesn’t really support art that isn’t ham related.

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i think if that was prior to the pivot to going all on chain you will find the dynamic to be quite different. at that time too we were dealing with the spectre of twitter influencers coming over her to try to take advantage of cash grab opportunities. i hear you. but participation in the channel is just one aspect of what is compared to the farcaster team base metrics that degen and moxie alike depend on, it is far more transparent and egalitarian. and like from thery , ya sure tweaks can be made, culture evolve etc etc, but fundamentally i see it as much more pragmatic and innovative system to work with.

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System wise I get you. I’ll go check out the channel and see if I can fit there again.

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the system is what matters. dont be afraid that theres a layer of silliness. its a feature not a bug. and a trojan horse. we just need farcaster people to embrace it.

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I have no issue with the silliness, the memes are funny, just need art to have a space too. I think the FC artists would show way more interest if they had a space in the ham culture.

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ill for instance tip u for ur art just like i would have with degen with ham. its no different. its just improved tech. we just have to adopt it more (luv ur art btw) 🍖 x2699 (the only difference i think you are refering to is that ham score is partly based on contribution to the /lp channel, but like thats just a cult formation and invigorating the protocol/proof of involvement type of mechanic that belongs to the early times of it: the vision is way way bigger)

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i mean what? should we compare to degen? which has no real cultural or memetic underpinning to solidify it at that level? (ham is built different)

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the choice is quite literally our own to choose the winner of these monetization protocols.......

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Ok I get you. Yeah I was referring to the ham scores. I don’t share in the channel so my score has dipped but never really felt it was a place for art so didn’t share. I still tip the small amount I have. I’ll keep reminding myself that we are still so early.

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