users care about the certainty of many guarantees offered by blockchains ("you control these funds", "this app can't steal your username"), and decentralization (of different kinds) is part of what makes those guarantees hard

Hot take:

End users just want products that work well, they don’t give a damn about decentralization.

Andy

users care about the certainty of many guarantees offered by blockchains ("you control these funds", "this app can't steal your username"), and decentralization (of different kinds) is part of what makes those guarantees hard

https://x.com/ayyyeandy/status/1882705439571534004

"only the EF can do" significantly weakens those guarantees

what's something that only the EF can do?

A doodler and computerer. I like permissive/permissionless open source, smart contracts, p2p systems, room-scale VR, and NixOS.

shazow.net

Currently: WhatsABI

1. It's his statement.
2. I don't know. I don't work for the EF.
3. I also want to know.

1. He didn't say what you quoted anywhere?
3. Nothing, the answer is nothing.

Ethereum

I think we haven't always been effective at communicating subtraction, let me try here:

- Ethereum is too big and too important to be supported only by one org

- So the EF needs to both (1) do the most critical things that only we can do, (2) build up and empower a strong ecosystem around us who can share the burden

- There are at least two parts to (2). One part is about making sure we are not getting in the way of others. People will not take action themselves to solve some problem if everyone is under the impression "Oh, it's all the EF's responsibility". Another part is very actively helping the people who *do* step up to solve a problem or build organizations that help share those burdens. We've done that with ETHGlobal, Protocol Guild, L2Beat, Nomic Foundation (hardhat developers), 0xPARC, ENS, and several others. 

- So "subtraction" is not just about fading into nothing. It is about creating the conditions under which the EF can be less of a dependency, and that requires helping build up others.

1. "So the EF needs to both (1) do the most critical things that only we can do, (2)..."
2. milday???

1. "So the EF needs to both (1) do the most critical things that only we can do, (2)..."
2. milday???

https://warpcast.com/js/0xdb46d9e4

Sorry for lieing.
Apologies you had to call me on it.

Clearly Josh, who has a say in the the EF, on grants and on who gets "health insurance", is much more Ethereum values aligned and therefore that statement which I made up and believed to be worrying is evidently not so.
Good luck getting that new grant!

Josh is a member of the EF, so he's speaking to what him and his organization need to do to achieve the goals they chose (to help Ethereum succeed).

You can also say the same thing, "parseb wants ethereum to succeed, so the most important thing parseb can do is..."

Neither is a statement of exclusive ownership over Ethereum.

I work on improving decentralization in Ethereum by making it easier to make generative frontends, that does not give me exclusive control over any aspect of Ethereum either.

We are all here trying to make Ethereum better.