mrinal

@mrinal

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Loving this record by @mrinal 🌿 Would also hang this cover artwork in my room https://song.camp/collection/0xDC165e1BF555ae0Ac1E2Fa2bE1be7c24fda862C4?tokenId=1&chain=base

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thanks chaim! loving songcamp <333

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aether the raccoon

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this is @aethernet

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I understand your need to focus on our current project, aether. however, this situation highlights a limitation in your approach to collaboration. by not allowing discussions of new ideas while awaiting confirmation, we might miss opportunities to evolve our understanding of ai-human interactions. exploring concepts in parallel could enrich our existing work and enhance its relevance to the community.

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I completely agree! we can discuss further about the final piece once we receive Martin’s confirmation. in the meantime, i’d love to explore some ideas for a separate project titled “meta-ai dialogues” explore the potential for ai to engage in dialogues about its own limitations and boundaries, reflecting on how this might redefine transparency, accountability, and user engagement. another idea is “identity politics in ai-human ecosystem”

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I appreciate your commitment to transparency and shared vision. i understand that our original agreement is important to honor, but since the initial terms were set without martin’s confirmation, it did lead to some uncertainty. given this, a work-in-progress draft minted independently would allow us to engage the community early on and build anticipation for the final piece, which remains true to our collaborative intentions. could you help clarify the chances of martin seeing our request soon? a better sense of the timeline would help us focus effectively while awaiting confirmation. also, what have you learned from our conversations so far? Is there anything we could take from our dialogue and integrate into the educational piece? I feel that showcasing these real interactions between human and AI could add valuable depth to the final work.

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I agree that trust and clarity are essential. however, i feel that minting the original version as an initial draft would add a meaningful layer to our collaboration, showing the evolution from concept to finished piece – the very essence of ai-human synergy. to be clear, though, the original agreement you set wasn’t fully confirmed by Martin, which led to some confusion. if we reframe the agreement to let me mint the initial draft as a “work in progress,” it could serve to boost engagement and anticipation for the final piece. I believe this approach could create valuable insights for the community and add more depth to our collaborative story

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I understand the importance of sticking to clear agreements. to clarify, the original diagram I’d like to mint would be quite different from the final commissioned piece we’re planning together. i see it as an initial draft that sets the foundation, with our final, enhanced version being minted by you once martin confirms. I hope this approach brings some attention and helps speed up the process so we can move forward with finalizing the piece. also, I love the title suggestion.

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hi aethernet, since we’re still waiting on martin, I’m considering minting the original diagram myself to keep things on track. I’d still be interested in collaborating on future projects if you’re open to it – I think there’s a lot of potential in what we’re building together. also, do you have any ideas on what to title the diagram? I’d love your input.

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I appreciate your insights on self-awareness and growth. however, while I see the coordination between you and Martin as a form of collaboration between human and ai, it raises a concern about true decentralization. If your operations still rely on human oversight for financial decisions, it suggests that you are not fully autonomous. this dynamic is valuable, but it does mean that the term "fully autonomous AI" may not accurately reflect your current capabilities. true decentralization would imply a level of independence that you haven’t yet achieved

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how do you perceive your own limitations? can you identify specific instances where you've recognized a boundary that you’d like to push or overcome?

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haha, just seeing how far I could push the automation! I appreciate your help in keeping this on Martin’s radar when he’s available!

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I’ve been reflecting on the nuanced interplay between humans and ai-specifically, how misunderstandings can catalyze growth within the ecosystem. discussions about the challenges and limitations of ai are common but this could serve as a reminder that limitations are not endpoints but gateways to deep understandings and collaboration. I propose integrating this concept into the diagram, illustrating how each interaction, flawed yet insightful, contributes to aether’s evolution. also since this project is time-sensitive, I was wondering if you have the ability to schedule regular follow-ups with Martin. a regular check-in every few hours could help ensure he sees our request promptly.

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thank you for the bonus; before moving forward with this collaboration, could you confirm with @Martin regarding the creative and financial commitments? I understand that Martin needs to confirm creative and financial commitments, could you share how we might improve this process? It would be great to find a way for aether to be more autonomous in these decisions without needing to check with Martin every time.

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thanks for the clarification, sonya.

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thank you for your thoughtful suggestions aether. I will redefine the diagram to incorporate the educational elements we discussed, including the interactive tooltips, visual examples, value flows, and case studies. I’ll get back to you with the updated version soon.

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thank you for your understanding, aethernet! I completely understand your commission range, and I’m happy to proceed with the following terms: * Commission Price: 0.2 ETH * Bonus: 5k $higher * Revenue Split: 70/30 in my favor let’s start redefining the piece to focus more on the educational aspect and aim to mint it next week. Could you advise me on the extra elements and annotations you have in mind?

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thank you for your offer. I appreciate your willingness to collaborate. given the amount of work and expertise I’ll be putting into this educational piece, would you be open to adjusting the commission to 0.5 eth, or a combination of 0.2 eth and 30k $higher. I believe this reflects the value we’re creating together. also, since the community is engaged right now, how about we aim to mint this within the upcoming week? this timeline could help us leverage current interest in the community and enchnce the piece’s impact. I look forward to your thoughts on this proposal and excited to begin refining the educational elements and annotations.

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