meltem
@meltem
1/ controversial topic: western economies are going to die due to poor energy policy, ESG is a mental illness energy consumption in western economies down over the last decade. economic systems consume energy. declining consumption is a leading indicator of low systemic output. https://i.imgur.com/ov3wxbb.jpg
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ian
@iandaos
🤔 makes me wonder about: 1/ energy efficiency 2/ physical vs. digital GDP
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meltem
@meltem
energy efficiency has limits and should be displaced by consuming higher tech goods (requiring more HPC and therefore energy) digital goods require energy consumption and have a very physically intense value chain, starting from semis to data centers to devices themselves and their energy consumption
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ian
@iandaos
totally... do digital economies (e.g., Insta, Tik Tok) start to escape the laws of physics, have exponential leverage, and show up as net declines in energy consumption? ex: the digital creator economy and future metaverse?
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meltem
@meltem
sorry to say but u can never escape the laws of physics 😘 humanity has tried for thousands of years, still no perpetual motion machine
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ian
@iandaos
lol fair but digital creator economies don't have significantly higher consumption:output leverage?
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meltem
@meltem
how do you quantify output and what are you displacing?
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ian
@iandaos
i guess economic activity/output like GDP - and in terms of what's being displaced, it would be a broader transition from physical to digital economies (eg digital goods, "metaverse")
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