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Replit AI Agent is insane. You guys are probably not going to see me for a while. I wanted to insert some funny tool belt meme but I don't even have time to look for a meme so you'll have to settle on my words. <exagerated tool belt with all the gadgets in batman suit meme>

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jesus christ, at this pace les is gonna be dropping more bangers than me in no time. im still analog mostly

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it’s a tough world be a king!

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devs are done for. never been clearer. even replit's offering it seems like a bandaid. the end game being companies will just deploy their own agents without saas in the middle, and hobby devs will run it locally.

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I disagree. Here’s why. When Home Depot, or other hardware stores were able to offer more refined raw goods for hobby diyers, explosion for skilled building continued. I think the misconception is that people underestimate how much infra and products it takes to build complex networked cities that feel modern. And how many different types of people it takes to participate in the market. I do think engineering wages will shift but their great ones will still be getting big $$$ and will be in very high need.

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i don't think you can apply the same logic as home depot streamlining physical building with software and ai. those sectors are not the same. what we would imagine as an agent in physical building is industrial sized 3d printing but that's not in reach to most people yet, software on the other hand - just clone a repo. you cannot use absolute rules when making comparisons in this scale.

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Luckily I’m using relative variables and weights, not absolutes. How much experience do you have building homes and what the pipeline of that looks like? I ask because I have learned software mapping that aspect of the physical world and it has worked amazingly to help me navigate my understanding of software, even as it scales.

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i can tell you if i build homes today it certainly won’t be remotely as easy as prompting.

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Yeah but you also carry the particular understanding of how to prompt. I understand data, can talk products, somewhat architecture, have great physical resource reasoning (self-proclaimed), and if I tried to write code, I struggle, if I prompt I struggle much less. Today anyone can run copper pipe, solder, and turn on the water line, literally a car drive away. Yet very few do. You’re overestimate the will people have to do things and their ability to overcome the cognitive load, even if commoditized, carries to execute properly. Even if just words and prompts.

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you lost me, the difference is too far in between the two fields of practice. prompting today may not as be as intuitive as asking it to do x in a snap of a finger - but that's the goal (soon, certainly is possible today today), sitting on the couch or desk doing voice commands, and asking it to iterate again if there are issues - i dream of this day, no keyboards, no clicks, just ephemeral apps. you cannot do this with physical building (yet?) which has existed since forever.

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I can see how I did that. Sorry. I think im the simplest way, I’m targeting the idea layering abstractions. This abstraction layering happens in every industry, software, neural nets, physical goods, brains, etc. I happen to use the construction world, and financial world to describe things because that’s what I know. As I have learned software last 5yrs, I have seen practically identical relationships of abstraction. Yes different outcomes and tangibility, but same abstracting behaviors and relationships. I hope this explains my thinking a little better.

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i agree there are areas where it crosses in those two fields, i understand. my side of the argument is that software and ai is moving so fast (that we don't even have to exaggerate that fact, it really is) that it seems implausible how it will take over manual work, and software is so cheap in terms of resource required - i do believe this, i don't believe though that physical building is moving as fast (although heading towards that direction with 3d prints - i have no further knowledge on 3d prints other than those do exist) that construction workers and diy builders will have trouble finding something to do soon.

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@kevinmfer is working in architecture and he said he's using ai to do blueprints and visualization(?)

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you can visualize any space with whatever design u want based on real life measurements aswell. i think the next leap is wen apple announces the 2nd version of vision pro. where u can redesign spaces in real time by just looking at it and voice prompt it

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