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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
One meta belief I have, is that I think "on the face pursuing idealistic objective A, but actually being tilted toward selfish objective B" is better than "openly pursuing objective B". Many seem to believe the opposite, typically saying something like "at least the latter is honest". I feel like what this misses, is that maintaining the face of pursuing idealistic objective A, and using A to coordinate a large coalition, is a pretty big speed bump against attempts to pursue B too brazenly. When "the mask comes off", things actually become much worse, and strategies that pursue B at high costs to other values (including A, and also often general human decency) become unlocked. Are there any good arguments against this intuition I have? (Whether generalized, or about specific situations)
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it depends on how many people is going to feel betrayed when the mask goes off.. and the proximity of this people.. (and these factors maybe different for you or any other. .depending on your values and what are you optimizing on your life) optimizing loyalty and friendship.. and betraying friends.. to get B while chasing A.. is the death.. for me .. but people with no empathy may feel the opposite.. different people, different values, different answers.. another argument is people does not chase just A, we are multi task and multi goal.. we have short, mid and long term goals that may crash at some point.. and contradictions.. always are there.. we are not perfect binary machines with a defined set of outputs (like LLM) we can be chaotic and that's part of the human beauty (and one of our best features)
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entropy > a predefined path, but also being honest > being a liar anyway, I think I agree with you in that directly chasing option B is not necessarily better.. it is just better for people who value being honest veyr much (or for positions where honesty is important, politics or friendship)
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