Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
What should we do with egregious examples of squatted channels? I'm going to call this individual out since it's clearly squatting — @0xg — is sitting on a bunch of city channels and not actively building communities: /denver /la /losangeles /nyc /newyorkcity /newyork /sanfrancisco (Also the multiple variations of city names with no activity is clear squatting and when there are active communities in /los-angeles /sf /new-york.) A few other thoughts: 1. We have a no squatting policy for fnames and we allow ENS for a name that isn't governed by that policy. 2. We never advertised channels as something you buy and own forever. Has been centralized and experimental since we allowed anyone to create a channel last December. 3. I'm sympathetic to someone who is good faith trying to build a community, but that's not squatting. 4. Squatting is squishy, know it when you see, not deterministic. 5. Ultimately, squatters are massive negative externality on the network. It's parasitic, anti-social behavior.
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eirrann | he/him🎩🔵
@eirrann.eth
I say pro-rated refund question to which I have no answer: are there topics with such broad appeal and applicability like these city names, and words like /art, that someone shouldn't be able to "own" the channel? I recognize the need to have an engaged person or group to properly cultivate any channel, but some things seem too general to be 'owned'
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
From our experience over the last year, for the vast majority of cases, generalized topics don't work. Some exceptions. You don't go to food.com for all of your food needs (recipes, photos, etc). Why should you have a single big channel? https://warpcast.com/dwr.eth/0x96bde48c
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eirrann | he/him🎩🔵
@eirrann.eth
I suppose /art must be an exception to this general rule then? If yes, why? Is it specifically because it has an engaged and motivated channel owner? Are there any lessons learned the platform can take from outliers like /art that would help to create or sustain general channels, or is it more a matter of letting the internal platform market decide where there's enough interest to have one and ensuring that there are no artificial barriers to success like channel squatters? Is there an inherent interest for the platform to find a workable model for things like /food (I didn't know there was a 'food' channel, so I'm not sure if it's thriving or not, simply using your example), or is the goal to have organic channel development on topics that channel owners can organize community interest in? Oh, and what about relinquishing ownership? (I think I saw you mention before that the team hadn't decided how to approach channels for which ownership expires) (Legit questions to understand the issue at hand)
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
@kugusha.eth is an excellent community builder. If everyone was as committed, we wouldn't have made the change. It's a lot of work to make a channel great.
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kugusha 🦋
@kugusha.eth
to clarify, /art was one of the first channels on FC and once the update of hosts was pushed, I volunteered to host it since this is very inline with my personal passions. As you said, it’s a pretty general channel, so there’s not so much of my active involvement apart from making sure that everyone is treated with respect and has a chance to be seen. you also have 10 mods in /art channel who proved to be consistently engaged in that specific channel for over a year. For any feedback, dms are opened. You can also find a lot of art related channels like /cryptoart /superrare /gifart that have different vibes
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