Dan Romero on Warpcast

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for anyone curious this is the reason we can't have a chronological feed (even though 90%+ of users want one) Warpcast team doesn't see that the quality of the algo feed is downstream of having the basics right (chronological feed ensures good visibility for new posts early on, boosting quality of discussion) so instead they try to tweak an algo that isn't being fed good enough content in the first place

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You should really use another client. You’re never going to win this argument.

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this isn't about me, this is about trying to help the ecosystem as a whole you're giving creators and users a suboptimal experience most will use Warpcast first then bounce if they don't like it not having a table-stakes option like a chronological feed that rewards both content consumers and creators is going to hurt Farcaster and everyone that has spent time to build a product/audience/community on here

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Consumers in 2024 don’t use chronological feeds. It’s niche.

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why would Twitter still have one then? you think they have a feature with 0% usage? Discord is a chronological feed, group chats are chronological feeds, consumers use them the "golden age" of Warpcast that the OGs talk about was a chronological feed you're limiting your product options because a few megacorp social sites made algos their priority you can help undo "the death of the follower" if you're willing to go against the dogma on this product decision https://www.forbes.com/sites/ianshepherd/2024/04/27/the-death-of-the-followerthe-next-era-of-content-creation/

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Chat UX != feed UX, lol Twitter is chrono is legacy. All effort the last 5 years is algo. It switches you back to algo because that's better for all metrics. The dominant social networks like Instagram, TikTok, YouTube are all algo. That's consumer revealed preference.

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Threads is a brand new social network and it chose to have a chronological "following" feed too, it's not just Twitter making a legacy decision you also cited 3 sites that are primarily visual mediums text social is different and powered by conversations, not visuals (reason why I bring up chat UX) conversations need early interaction or else they die, so a home feed full of 2 hour old posts makes no sense for text social finally, let's be real, Warpcast is not anywhere near dealing in the amount of content that the other sites you reference are you're still bootstrapping a community here, it's totally logical to step back and say "maybe it's too early to go all-in on algo even if big guys do it"

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this poll says otherwise

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we prefer the algo choice. Bluesky has user choice of algorithms the default, why are you removing choice from us?

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It’s not consumer revealed preference, it’s a dark pattern forced on us, that largely in part many have become addicted to, but it’s not right—it’s not the right way to do it

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All of the above algos prioritize new content from people you don't follow a lot more than it seems here though Here I don't miss a post from maybe the top 10 people I engage in, but its often 1-2d later, I rarely find someone/something new in my feed though It's almost always in a channel but that experience is suffering from having a true/false curation method making even quality posts there obselete after just hours until it gets that 1d later engagement stimmy injection

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Twitter is the only social platform where real-time breaking news really gets priority and I think that’s largely because there’s a chronological feed Why not at least have this as an option? It could help Farcaster be more active in times of breaking news and commentary around it

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Imo crypto natives have a higher preference for a chronological feed than others. With Twitter idc about seeing e.g., politics, sports, entertainment content in chron. order but crypto is much more time-sensitive (news, token launches, price action, etc). Definitely think current users would appreciate the option.

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