Founders

hot take: pre-product tokens are a distraction, and should be avoided until you have built out the stickiness in your product. 

The bandwidth you've to give to manage the community + price action can be better used elsewhere

Certainly creates noise but can also enable you, help you to get buy-in, support - but should likely never overindex on low-quality/contributing community people.

For different projects, different builders one way or the other makes sense: build to get fair high valuation, hype to get high valuation and have the resources to build.

Mastering Incentives. Interested in growth, products, football, sports, outdoors, biohacking, tokens (invest, design, incentives, value accrual)

100% agree with all your points. If you really need it, you can go the launch route. Like someone was just saying, token is also a product and then you have to ensure that the holders are having a good time

Lots of pressure for an early stage product