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I saw this video popping like crazy on my X feed today. Seems to be another instance of a controversial arrest of a black man (here Tyreek Hill) in America and as expected, everybody picked a side. I watched the whole video, but I have to say, I'm a bit confused. A few thoughts: -The officers looked short tempered and agressive, but not at first. -Hill kept calling the officers "bro" 🙄 -Hill rolled up his tainted window while interacting with the officer 🚩 -Refused to sit down after being asked to. Said it's because he just had knee surgery, but also, played football later that day? 🤔 -The guy in the other car not showing his Driver's licence after being asked 10 times. I mean, I know there's history of police violence, even police killing citizens in the US. But in this case, there's none of that (there's been rough handling of Hill for sure, but Hill didnt show his best behavior either), so I'm really curious as to why it seems to have become such a controversial arrest? 😳
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None of the parties here have ever heard the term de-escalation. Hill was wrong for the window thing (and IMO general non-compliance). They were wrong for the manner in which they dragged him out (and general overagressiveness). He was wrong for not sitting. They were wrong for still being mad about the window thing. The other driver was wrong for not listening to not park there (and a dumbass for still being on the phone while talking with 2 LEOs). They were wrong for both of them speaking to him at the same time, one of them saying he should leave, the other saying give me your licence. He was wrong for not listening to either
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No one apart from professionals are trained for de-escalation. It's police's job to de-escalate. Not the guy's job. So the guy has no real fault here. Only the police.
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Hmmm I’m inclined to lean toward the viewpoint that the police needed to handle this better. Police are rightfully held to a higher standard. I’m glad Tyreek didn’t get hurt. Officers didn’t need to pin him; he’s big, but compliant. The suv guy … meh … he is illegally parked in the middle of the road and wasn’t complying with law enforcement to move his illegally parked vehicle. Even so, no harm from what I can tell - just bad tempers.
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Maybe he's not trained to de-escalate, but common sense when being pulled over by the police would be to not provoke escalation in the first place maybe? You can't say the guy has no real fault here.
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While I don't exactly agree with the "he started it" arguments, he IS at fault here. You must obey a lawful order by a police officer (even I know that, and I am not from the states). What is a “lawful order” is when it gets tricky. But you don't debate that at the moment of the order (maybe later on at the court). They pulled him over for a traffic violation (if I understood that correctly). Having a window down is a reasonable and lawful order. He should comply. Failure to obey might get you arrested. Which is what happened. I've given my thoughts on the police follow-up in my reply above
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