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2013 Polish light tank concept Would be cool to have more futuristic looking tanks
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@dwr.eth @macbudkowski The primitives of all modern warfare are Fire + Movement Over the past 20 years, we've basically entered an era where the definition of "Fire" has gotten significantly broader and more dynamic It's no longer constrained to the elements immediately in the battlespace and there's every reason to think this will only accelerate with other new vertical attack vectors (tungsten rods from space anyone?) The big question rn is that no modern military has really figured out the Movement part for today. Tanks in US doctrine ofc aren't a standalone unit - they are part of a "combined arms battalion" with mounted + dismounted infantry as screening + support against most low-ish tech "tank killers". This includes dudes with shotguns shooting drones out of the air (yes this is real). Additionally, the top is usually the least armored part of the tank and as such tanks have always been weak in urban environments. Cheap drones have just extended that weakness into non-urban environments. 1/
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People aren't going away soon because most warfare isn't "blow everything up" bc we live in a society and you can't clear even a mildly complex objectives with a robot yet, maybe one day tho. I expect new versions of tank-like vehicles to be more uniformly armored, lighter weight aka built more for maneuvering, and be moddable with fight-specific capabilities (anti-troop vs AA vs anti-drone kits) I also expect future doctrine updates to be even more rigorous in its treatment of multi platform coordination (aka all tank battalions get primary and backup drone control channel jammer units etc) https://potomacofficersclub.com/articles/10-anti-drone-weapons-used-by-the-u-s-military/ 2/
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It's also imo much more interesting + impactful to think about this in the context of naval warfare. Land based ware is cool and all, but global power is projected at sea. We already knew that you can fire 10 cheap antiship missiles at 1 very expensive aircraft carrier and be extremely cost effective in your warmaking. Imagine how fast we're racing to the bottom with drone driven sea warfare https://www.twz.com/sea/the-compelling-case-for-arming-u-s-navy-warships-with-drone-swarms We should also keep in mind that the reality of Ukraine fight too is a lot of isolated, untrained units using really shitty tank tactics as they don't have a deep bench of professional soldiers 🤷 https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journals/NCO-Journal/Archives/2019/March/Russian-ncos/ Tanks are nerfed for sure, but all the media we see is also only partially representative of modern near peer army exchanges
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addendum from my buddy https://warpcast.com/cameron/0xc75cc881
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Thanks for this deep dive, very interesting! Re: Russian tanks in Ukraine, this is the same thing I heard from friends who spoke with Ukrainian soldiers - Russian infantry is not protecting the tanks the way they should, so they're more vulnerable to drones and RPGs
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Holy crap dude, thanks for the impressive deep dive. I can tell you really pay attention to this stuff. Love when shit like this happens. Someone casts a quick 2 minute photo and caption and then the comments have some absolutely fantastic information.
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Pretty sure you were defense secretary in your past life Cam 😄😄😄
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The actual practical and powerful appearance of drones was in the war between Azerbaijan and Armenia, where Turkey supplied Azerbaijan with Bayraktar drones, which were among the best and were characterized by their very high speed and destructive power. Then Iranian drones appeared, which were imported by Russia and were characterized by their high speed and high destructive power in addition to their low price. Russia copied and modified these drones. New drones also appeared with Hezbollah in Lebanon. What is remarkable about these drones is that they were able to bypass all small and large missile defense systems, which caused great concern for the Israeli army. Drones are still considered one of the most unsolved military innovations and have constituted a turning point in the history of battles.
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