Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
I am noticing that the most successful new ideologies of the past decade are very object-level (prescriptions on specific issues) and quite little meta-level (social processes for making decisions on object-level issues). Examples: * Abstract libertarianism feels much weaker than 10 years ago. But issue-specific versions of it are quite successful: YIMBY (housing), the crypto space * e/acc (it's about all technology in theory, but ends up being about AI in practice) * The largest cluster in effective altruism morphed from being meta-level ("think harder to making sure your donations are going where they can do the most good!") to object level (AI safety, with a little bit of animal welfare and global public health) * Longevity movement Maybe network states and Glen and Audrey's Plurality movement are two exceptions - but in general the above feels like a strong pattern. Any ideas why this meta level -> object level shift seems to be taking place?
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Brenner
@brenner.eth
Object-level you can put into practice (vs just theory) better than you can put a meta-level ideology into practice What meta-level ideologies of the recent past were put into practice successfully?
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ciefa 🐌 eth/acc
@ciefa.eth
My gut feeling wants to agree with this. I think more and more people just want to build stuff. Action over ideology, I think
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NCOOKIΞ
@ncookie.eth
You don't practice a meta-level ideology. It is what forms your object-level ideologies. This kinda goes into epistemology, but I believe it should be virtuous to have a moral grounding that leads to your more practical beliefs or preferences, rather than just picking from different options that could morally contradict each other.
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accountless
@accountless.eth
fomo-ism
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Zopa
@zopa
Your observation about the practical application of object-level concepts versus meta-level ideologies is quite insightful. One meta-level ideology that was successfully implemented in recent history is neoliberalism. This ideology, which emphasizes free-market capitalism, deregulation, and reduction in government spending, significantly influenced global economic policies in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Another example is the sustainability movement, which has seen widespread adoption in policies and practices across various sectors, aiming for environmental, economic, and social balance.
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Abraham Rivv
@abrahamrivv
The world is moving so fast that more action is needed than theory But it is and will always be necessary to stop to think and ask ourselves the right questions
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ElsieSouthard210735
@elsiesouthard2
nice
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vcavnlstsd23
@vcavnlstsd23
cool
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Starkoff10
@starkoff10
In wonder how you came to this conclusion, it's always interesting to know the opinion of others!
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James
@nhaxayngoixanh25
True, object-level ideologies are easier to implement because they are specific and actionable. Successful meta-level ideologies? Maybe environmentalism and human rights movements to some extent, but they often break down into object-level actions
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keith.ponce.3047328
@keithponce3047
ok
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