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alex
@proxystudio.eth
This is random but have any of the network state people written or talked about some of the modern non-state actors that have acquired significant military capabilities Examples include: - Ansar Allah (Houthi) - Hezbollah - various Kurdish factions (YPG) - Wagner & other Russian PMC that went rogue Feels relevant
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@baseddesigner.eth
these forces exist for completely different reasons and won’t ever care about something like that
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alex
@proxystudio.eth
not sure I understand what you mean, all of these groups exist outside the nation state structure, and have amassed enough power to sustain that existence, feels directly relevant to core ideas around network states
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@baseddesigner.eth
they’ve got the power they were given by their donor, same with money, they only exist because donor keeps feeding them like we saw in russia, they’re very loyal and it only got out of hand due to many lucky coincidences and war failing in ukraine, and we all saw what happened to that wagner group after - leadership killed and rest disbanded don’t think there is a way for those groups to achieve any kind of autonomy, they’re pursuing goals set by their donors and will be punished otherwise
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@baseddesigner.eth
and network states aren’t aiming to get any military support as of now, don’t think it clashes with existing countries yet and will only exist(already starting to exist) in collaboration with friendly parties who got military covered
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alex
@proxystudio.eth
I don't totally agree with the analysis, the NSVA <> donor state relationship is a pretty complicated one, and often times interests do not align, or there isn't a direct "we give you this, you do as we say" relationship. these are powerful groups, their interests change over time, its dynamic. there are limits to how their sponsors can influence them. I don't really buy the "network state can exist at the blessing of some hegemonic power" idea, I think they'd have to acquire some form of hard power of their own
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