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Benjamin Basche
@basche42
I think we need to take the ACP and MAGA communism seriously, even if we disagree
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Purp🇵🇸
@purp
I will when they stop acting like feds lmfao
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Benjamin Basche
@basche42
Same with Dugin btw. He’s wrong, but he has done the reading
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rathermercurial
@rathermercurial.eth
"Done the reading" matters to a very small portion of the populace that's been mostly politically irrelevant for the past century. Like.. If people want to engage in theoretical struggle, bless them.. But tbh the more important theater here is cultural. The lumpen-proles are shifting toward left-populism which is a notorious opportunity to build national socialist (or now "PatSoc") pipelines for fascist reactionaries. The important win here is engaging with people *in that pipeline* to deradicalize them and put them to work in post-capitalist projects that PAY, and leverage that influx to build sound onchain social safety nets for those who can prove values-alignment and trust with reputable workers, and resource facilitators who can help heal their anti-social tendencies so we can re-integrate them into productive society without so much dependence on capital.
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Benjamin Basche
@basche42
They’re not just doing theory. Look up what their local chapters are up to in terms of community service
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rathermercurial
@rathermercurial.eth
That's what I mean though? Tbh anything relates to theory they post is blatantly counterfactual so I don't really get why people think they're based in that regard. They seem to be skilled at rhetoric, that's about all. Otherwise they really seem to have only enough book learning to attract confused kids. Where they're active in communities, they need to be opposed. Don't underestimate their readiness to infiltrate and recruit right under our noses.
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Purp🇵🇸
@purp
That's why It reads straight fed shit to me
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rathermercurial
@rathermercurial.eth
Everyone who's shilled the ACP to me got on my radar because they were the dude in the meeting acting like a cop. That said.. I'm wary of fedjacketing in general because "looking like a cop" is also a common tactic to disrupt communities Tbh I find it more useful to follow, watch and just put them on blast. Put the signal messages in the group chat. Report recruiters who show up at meetings. Make the shills *feel* unsafe and under surveillance.
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Benjamin Basche
@basche42
I think Haz has some interesting ideas if you listen to him at length, and a lot of it besides the edge lord immaturity is indistinguishable from the position of people on the social democratic left
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Benjamin Basche
@basche42
I would not take such a harsh line against ACP. Instead I would take them at their word and call out the reactionary social tendencies and critique them openly
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