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To smart contract developers testing on public testnets (sepolia, etc...): Why aren't you setting up your own private testnet (anvil/hardhat with mainnet fork)? What are the benefits of public testnets over private ones?
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Primarily the ability to deploy a front end other can test, as well as making sure it works with marketplaces like OpenSea if working with NFTs. We have over 100 people testing cosmiccowboys.cloud which gives us very valuable feedback
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By front-end, you mean the etherscan read/write contract interface? And how do you check if it's working with opensea? Do they have a testnet version? Thanks for your answers 🙏!
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Of course! 🫡 It could depend on your needs; for example you could do plenty of testing with hardhat or foundry, which you should, however there are some test cases you might miss unless someone else thinks of it. They will likely be people who are not writing test scripts and that FE will make it accessible
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OpenSea does have a test site which makes it soooo nice to make sure your NFTs are working! https://testnets.OpenSea.io
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Oh and to clarify, a front end would be something like a Next.js or another framework that’s wired up to the contract using libraries like Viem.sh so a user can interact with it. Also check out RainbowKit for connecting user wallets. In the end I guess it depends what you want your smart contract to do!
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Thanks for the detailed answers!! That makes sense. The reason I'm asking is that I've built a "generic" explorer that can connect to any evm chains, and has pretty much all of etherscan main features. And I was wondering if I should start offering a package "hosted mainnet fork + explorer" (1/2)
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Main upsides compared to public testnet + etherscan are : privacy, chain control (If you need to reset for example), easy faucet, contract tagging, abi admin, controlled env for testers (no clutter from other apps testing their stuff). Would that be something interesting for your use case for example?
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Oh word! Yeah that definitely comes in handy for several cases. Sounds like https://www.blockscout.com/? Is it different from that?
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Yes it's similar, using blockscout you need to self host the explorer, and the node, and connect them. Right now I have a solution that let you spin up a hosted explorer (faster setup & no maintenance), and I'm thinking of adding hosted anvil/hardhat/l2s on top of it (not for production but good enough for testing)
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Having both the node and explorer integrated together can be interesting, especially if you do a lot of chain manipulation (reset, jump in time, etc) as it's way easier to keep them in sync
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Ahh, very interesting! Yeah would be cool to experiment with
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