Ngl recently I’ve immediately churned when trying any products that have anything to do with an ERC20 or points

building with @emo.eth / prev: manifold.xyz opensea.io

Hmm not sure I understand this.

We're in crypto - to pretend that tokens or points are not the single biggest unlock for creating a net new generation of product experiences feels weird to me.

I respect your desire to find crypto products that have PMF in the absence of incentives but hasn't been the case so far and probs won't for a long time IMO

Onchain is the new online - FID 206 -  cooprecords.xyz

"Have you also noticed that tokens or points play a crucial role in driving new product experiences within the crypto space? Despite the desire to focus on products with strong market fit without incentives, do you think this approach will realistically prevail anytime soon?"