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I saw this video popping like crazy on my X feed today. Seems to be another instance of a controversial arrest of a black man (here Tyreek Hill) in America and as expected, everybody picked a side. I watched the whole video, but I have to say, I'm a bit confused. A few thoughts:
-The officers looked short tempered and agressive, but not at first.
-Hill kept calling the officers "bro" 🙄
-Hill rolled up his tainted window while interacting with the officer 🚩
-Refused to sit down after being asked to. Said it's because he just had knee surgery, but also, played football later that day? 🤔
-The guy in the other car not showing his Driver's licence after being asked 10 times.
I mean, I know there's history of police violence, even police killing citizens in the US. But in this case, there's none of that (there's been rough handling of Hill for sure, but Hill didnt show his best behavior either), so I'm really curious as to why it seems to have become such a controversial arrest? 😳 7 replies
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I don’t because I doubt studies about things like that exist, and it’s not not worth it to me to look that up, feel free to satisfy your curiosity, or just ask a bunch of Americans. But btw you changed my framing, I never said “appropriate”, I said not disrespectful, let’s not change the words.
About the second point, I think you missed what I said and went in another direction. When interacting with officers, what ultimately matters (especially in the US) is the law, not “expectations” (that no one can define, incl. you me or a judge). If the officer (in general, not the video) doesn’t respect that they stop being a cop and start becoming a criminal.
That’s the basis of a lawful country.
But the actual point I was making is that officers (as you pointed correctly) are trained, citizens are not. Acting like they should is a horrendous slippery slope. 2 replies
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The first point doesn't really make sense. Don't know what you are trying to argue, I'm sure it's not "not appropriate language gives cause to cops", but it really looks like it.
For the second point, you're again changing the conversation, I'm not talking about your other initial bullet points, this conversation started with the bullet point about "bro". You are trying to argue about things I am not talking about. Funnily enough, the fact that you have to go to other bullet points to continue this conversation shows how weak the one about "bro" was, which was the reason I responded.
If you want to respond to the stuff I brought up, related to cultural expectations and how "bro" is not, in the slightest, disrespectful, then you can respond to it, but don't move the goalpost by responding with things that are unrelated. 3 replies
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I'm happy to go back to the original intent of the cast with you, but you're the one who's gonna be off-topic then:
I originally wrote this cast to signal that the controversial nature of this arrest, spun out online as an unfair one & a racist one, was totally blown out of proportion. I brought several elements to sustain my point, showing that there was several reasons as to why things escalated, and why it ended this way, and none of them had to do with the fact Hill is black, but with the fact that he acted like a prick. Calling a police officer "bro" being one of them. I don't think I based my whole argument on this point, you're the one who chose to solely focus on this, and trying to make a case about it being precisely "not disrespectful". Even if it's not, it's still not appropriate, and still participated to how things unfolded, and still has nothing to do with race.
Bro is not acceptable because you qualify it as "cultural". This is the limit of cultural relativism. 0 reply
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