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Boost runs out soon so casting out a loosely held opinion- - I think artists are reasonable to be concerned about AI being trained on their works. > "But AIs learn art the same way humans do!" - yes, the methods could be considered similar but the distribution of that learned AI skill is not at all similar. When an artist released an artwork, they were fully expecting many people to learn from their work then further pass down those skills but they definitely weren't expecting that their skills would become this easily accessible through AI. Scale matters
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> "it's a good thing that art is so easily accessible now. Artists are BAD for hating on it" - I do believe that AI is a net positive but i understand the position of artists. Not even thinking of compensating artists for the data used means that there are poor incentives in place. Many tech bros (rightfully to a certain extent) justify the somewhat high prices of medical drugs that are very cheap to make because they understand that research costs money and not compensating people for the research could have consequences.
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> Coders are fine with it. Artists should be too - Coders' skills havent been replaced to the same extent as artists'. A lot of coders had a huge scare when devin was announced though devin turned out to be all hype. Coding involves typing, using logic,creativity, knowing the correct syntax and libraies. Knowing the correct syntax and libraries is not as important now but everything still matters. On the contrary, you do not need skilled hands or voice at all to make okayish art anymore. Creativity is still required though i believe AI art is cool and legit as long as it offers something new and is not just an algorithmic redo of already existing work. figuring out how to properly compensate artists is a whole other mess though and i am not sure if it is even possible.
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eggman šµ
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Honestly I agree with your arguments - but I donāt think itās a force that can be reckoned with. Even if harsh regulations appeared on training models on the works of others, the open source scene is fully entrenched in the tech behind model training and fine-tuning. Creating a style Lora can be as cheap as $5 worth of compute time now, and can be done in a fashion where itāll mimic someoneās style perfectly without actually rendering out any ācopyrighted elementsā. I think the ship has sailed in that regard. Even in areas where AI tooling is āpublicly denouncedā (ala game dev), everyoneās silently using AI in one capacity or another. Our artist over at /nova appreciates what AI can bring to the table - her job isnāt at risk, but sheās exceptionally talented (hi @mabiruna!!) On the dev side, I use AI almost daily, especially for prototyping. So, Iām helping train it to replace me in areas too. The tech isnāt going away, people need to make peace with it imo. 4000 $degen
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Mabiruna
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As artist I would add to @eggman.eth reply, that me and lots of my colleagues in enterprise companies see ai as potential tool. You can create references for color palettes and see how this would look or push own brain to research through using ai as inspiration much faster than, say, Pinterest. Some major artists I know use ai to make variations of their own concepts a little. When they already drew something but ai suggests "add here little golden splash" and it looks nice. I know studio who has their leader art style Lora and use it to aibash junior artists props a little to match the style of project. Allows to hire juniors with less demands to fit the style of any project and help them learn faster on their own arts example. So some artists are even up for training ai model on themselves. Truth is... Model trained on someone else, specific, is more of a toy. It's hyped now, but I can't see it as a problem in future. Ppl can create samdoesarts model. But samdoesarts artist value is not in this. But in him
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Art is about emotions. Computers can have all the techniques they want, theyāll never be able to FEEL anything
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