"But from the above it looks like that stateless societies aren't kept around by the failure to coordinate. In fact, they survive by actively cooperating to prevent the hierarchical structures to emerge. From that point of view, it's rather the state that is the result of coordination failure. For whatever reason the traditional mechanisms of coordination suddenly break and the resulting societal collapse is what we refer to as a "state"."

"But from the above it looks like that stateless societies aren't kept around by the failure to coordinate. In fact, they survive by actively cooperating to prevent the hierarchical structures to emerge. From that point of view, it's rather the state that is the result of coordination failure. For whatever reason the traditional mechanisms of coordination suddenly break and the resulting societal collapse is what we refer to as a "state"." https://250bpm.com/blog:177/index.html

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When we first got married, 38 yrs ago, we were at each other’s throat because we didn’t have strong family backgrounds,among other things. We moved into a commune where we got a good education in a number of things we were pursuing and lived there for four years. They had been at it since 1968 so we showed up ~20 years into it. Their face story was that there was no power hierarchy and operated on a “one no vote” system. The claim was the weakest member of the community, of any age or social standing, had the power to halt all action or pursuit of a group goal by “no voting it”. There wasn’t any voting so the idea was anything goes unless someone played their no vote card.