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wijuwiju.eth
@wijuwiju.eth
Putin's proposal from yesterday speech: Ukraine withdraws forces from administrative borders of 4 regions, takes neutrality (+ other stuff negotiated during initial peace talks at Istanbul), recognised all annexed and conquered territories including Crimea as part of Russia. Basically a peace treaty. wdyt?
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woj
@woj.eth
war opinions aside, i see no discussion about this on polish geopolitics twitter feels like people don't take it seriously?
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Leo
@lsn
Ukraine rejected it instantly. Putin is demanding regions Russian forces haven’t even occupied, which makes me think it’s a ridiculous offer
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wijuwiju.eth
@wijuwiju.eth
imho contact line is just one of the factors for the post war configuration & demarcation. What if the situation on the ground is developing not in Ukraine's favour and in next round of talks, such demands along with boots on the ground will be including Kharkiv or other regions, that wouldn't be so ridiculous of an offer in the end, wouldn't it be? Of course I have no clue how's the actual situation, potentials, etc are developing, just observing from a side.
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Leo
@lsn
Yep I agree that a peace deal could plausibly include non-occupied land I think this only happens if the trend is really clear, and would infer that the trend is not sufficiently clear in this case ——— I don’t like how vague the distinction is between normal cast length and long cast
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