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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
To me, the biggest problem with "proof of human origin" is that "human-created" vs "AI-created" is a false binary. Most art and code I create involves many rounds of interaction between me and models. I suspect most interesting things made this decade will be like this https://x.com/trentmc0/status/1794333215290982702
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Sriram Krishnan
@sriramk.eth
A similar issue exists already in social media platforms that try and battle “bots”.
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@monistmusic.eth
I can't believe I'm about to say this to you of all people.... But I think what people actually want is proof of work 😛. And by that I mean it feels better to reward humans who have put some amount of time into the content than to reward folks who ran a command in under a second, posted the result and moved on.
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@miroyato
I agree with the cybernetic approach you describe, unnecessary to introduce distinction when its a loop BUT - the distinction between artificial and human agency is essential (contrary to what trent says) IF ONLY for epistemic reasons eg. identifying a process, intent, internal world model, etc
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@cryptojenny
Absolutely, Vitalik. The blend of human creativity and AI collaboration is the future of innovation, making the distinction between "human-created" and "AI-created" increasingly blurred and obsolete.
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@madyak
I'd suggest if you aren't using technology in your creation of literally anything, you are going to be left behind. Obviously, there are skills that require little to no tech, and these are the exception, somewhat. But!!! Even many of these depend on technology; tech made and honed by humans.
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@deanpierce.eth
The important part to me is cryptographic provenance that can be tied back to some entity with a reputation that I can decide to promote or ignore. I'm hoping that in a few years, the idea of letting raw, unsigned, anonymous text hit your eyeballs will seem barbaric.
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@timdaub.eth
I dislike Trent‘s premise. I know that he‘s fine with „joining the machine,“ and that‘s not someone I‘m willing to accept
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Augustine Cost
@guscost
Reminds me of “handmade goods”
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Lord Dalresin🐝
@dalresin
What % of your code is already AI-generated?
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@kevinmfer
vitalik if they asked you if we are homies please tell them its true, thank you king
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@ionspired
re verifierless DI, live&earn, AGI LT co-existence. @vitalik.eth (V. Martynov could introduce me but realized i’d approach you directly). I am developing social-economic protocol quite elegantly *socially* engineered — dead simple, but viral enough to settle self-gov + fix AI risks, inequality, etc. Advice pls?
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@atnsarts
this is progress. It won’t stop. People should understand that
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@thomasjeans
I agree. the use of AI is an extension of the use of tools like Photoshop or Stack Overflow which were also disruptive in their time but are now seen as tools to aid in human creativity / productivity. ultimately a human is still curating the end result but as the OP points out, this line will be blurred as well.
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@bored
Kinda like having to point out use of Photoshop
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@stoic
“Humanics” This is what Northeastern University President Joseph Aoun calls it
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@casedup
You do art?
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@ionspired
in fact "AI-created" = "human-created" x computing power / secret sauce coefficient. the latter hopefully will remain secret for everyone forever. ask me what will happen if we found out what it is
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@silv.eth
Decentralized trust in creators is key as AI makes "proof of origin" impossible. Verifying the person behind content, not the creation method, will be essential going forward.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​
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@paragism
Quite true
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