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Vitalik Buterin
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Is the goal of environmentalism to maximize the health of the environment, or to maximize the health of the environment experienced by the average person? (I think both are valid goals, but they can lead to very different conclusions) https://x.com/TheGattoniCelli/status/1796949964804747335
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What's the difference? If the health of the environment gets so bad that it's dangerous to 95% of people on the planet, then both goals have failed
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Daniel Fernandes
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It's all signaling. Stated preference: I live in a city to reduce my carbon footprint Revealed preference: if I had a private jet I would use it every weekend without hesitation
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John Camkiran
@johncamkiran
It is not about maximising anything, but rather about minimising our collective impact on the environment. Nature thrives by itself.
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In my experience the goal of environmentalism is to prevent any and all progress in the hopes that one day blackberry bushes will takeover everything and humans will all be dead but then we can say there’s balance right before the universe decides to destroy the planet because there’s no such thing as balance
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@m-j-r
it's debatable whether health is maximized if environmentalism demonstrates myopia & mismanages itself among the anthropocene. the ideal experience & natural outcome aren't the same thing, but they may overlap without some intractable austerity. former > latter, but still deals w/ humans.
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Dense house is inhuman, I suspect it contributes to declining birth rates.
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Mixed-use building is the best environmental policy. Just outright housing density causes tons of issues. Plus overly dense areas are not very resilient. They can succumb easily to epidemics, environmental crises, congestion. New York is not a good model for environmentalism. Your average Swiss or Dutch township is
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I think it should be to maximize the health of the environment experienced by all living creatures - not just humans. We share this planet with so many other amazing living things. We should try to make sure to preserve as many of them as we can. ❀️
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i actually wrote a paper for school about this, the gwei the governments are approaching this crisis leads me to believe that they are trying to maximize the health of the environment experienced. Building seawalls to protect from rising tides is an example where they increase emissions to β€œprotect the environment”
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interesting take. you don't always have to martyr yourself in order to do public good we can be conscious about the space around us without having to go back living in caves with no lights.
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While conserving ecosystems and biodiversity is important, the ultimate aim for us, humans, should be to protect the environment in a way that benefits human health and well-being. Balance is key.
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@mechanicus3
Well... interesting question...
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@sayge
Interesting way πŸ€” to see the goals differently.
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A question I have wondered about. Do you sense that students growing up have the freedom to ask these kind of questions at school or university without some form of academic peer pressure? (Maybe It is just my experience from the places I've lived) I see a need for healthy curiosity increase on how humans are effected.
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@permian-sable
And no matter how much Leonardo DiCaprio and Jennifer Lawrence shout, no one will look at the top
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Aleksey
@permian-sable
Bullshit all this, people almost all their existence adjusted and broke the world around them for themselves, and every year the speed of destruction of fauna will increase. The law of the mura of human ignorance. Until humanity destroys the planet, it won't stop
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Best
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Good evening!
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