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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
Is the goal of environmentalism to maximize the health of the environment, or to maximize the health of the environment experienced by the average person? (I think both are valid goals, but they can lead to very different conclusions) https://x.com/TheGattoniCelli/status/1796949964804747335
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What's the difference? If the health of the environment gets so bad that it's dangerous to 95% of people on the planet, then both goals have failed
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It's all signaling. Stated preference: I live in a city to reduce my carbon footprint Revealed preference: if I had a private jet I would use it every weekend without hesitation
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John Camkiran
@johncamkiran
It is not about maximising anything, but rather about minimising our collective impact on the environment. Nature thrives by itself.
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it's debatable whether health is maximized if environmentalism demonstrates myopia & mismanages itself among the anthropocene. the ideal experience & natural outcome aren't the same thing, but they may overlap without some intractable austerity. former > latter, but still deals w/ humans.
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Dense house is inhuman, I suspect it contributes to declining birth rates.
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@maretus
I think it should be to maximize the health of the environment experienced by all living creatures - not just humans. We share this planet with so many other amazing living things. We should try to make sure to preserve as many of them as we can. ❤️
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i actually wrote a paper for school about this, the gwei the governments are approaching this crisis leads me to believe that they are trying to maximize the health of the environment experienced. Building seawalls to protect from rising tides is an example where they increase emissions to “protect the environment”
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@mechanicus3
Well... interesting question...
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A question I have wondered about. Do you sense that students growing up have the freedom to ask these kind of questions at school or university without some form of academic peer pressure? (Maybe It is just my experience from the places I've lived) I see a need for healthy curiosity increase on how humans are effected.
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Best
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@darkshadow
Wouldnt you say it’s hard to extrapolate the conclusions of these goals as we aren’t optimising for either 👀
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@nerdynedo
I think so
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@mycaleum
Definitely human-centric efforts.
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@nicup
"People trying to make the world safe for their Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don’t give a shit about the planet. Not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat." George Carlin
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Environmentalists can’t answer that because they’re also divided. As an ex-green party member, I kept saying “the planet is fine, the people are f***” and that would make some people mad. They think human species really is anything relevant in the planet’s “health”
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Gm
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I think average person is more important, cuz order person occupy most people in real life.
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@n3wbie
IMHO, we should protect the environment at all cost. We have to re-think our habits, not even in a painful way. That’s the most valuable investment for our old days and our kids lives. 50+ Celsius experienced in India recently and it is just the beginning. We're neither ready nor even realizing what comes next.
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