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Lots of people on the other site are mocking this tweet, but I feel like there's a specific sense in which it's true. American products, music, entertainment etc are still super pervasive worldwide, but what there's less caring about is US *real-time discourse*. Eg. very little discussion of Biden vs Trump in non-US
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In 2016 or even 2020 things felt very different in this regard. And the same for other US political tropes: wokeness vs antiwokeness, "the southern border", red vs blue, gender issues... I don't think I heard any reference to them in my recent memory of travels through the non-West. This feels new.
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I think the last point is incorrect. As an Australian, I can attest Biden / Trump is a big concern for us. Same sentiments when I visited Malaysia and Singapore recently. Americanism may not be as pervasive as before but its still a discussion point.
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This is true. Sitting in India, for decades we’ve followed what Colin Powell or Condoleeza Rice had to say. Don’t even know who is the defence secretary or Secretary of State any more. Even culture wise, while Friends and American pop culture still dominate, K-pop and K-drama waves are more common than 10 years ago
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Yes, there is a noticeable dropping down the pecking order even here in Dublin (which is effectively a satellite town of Silicon Valley).
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I think most global geopolitical discussion has become centered around war, and where its going to go / how it's going to develop. Started with Russia/Ukraine, continued with Israel/Hamas, and further continued in the rest of the Middleast / Indian ocean
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+1. People might get the feeling that we (the rest of the world) discuss US-related issues a lot but that's because they're on Twitter which is US-centric.
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I'm not sure why culture is conflated with politics. They are different things, no? Japanese culture has its influence, yet not many people care about their politics. American politics has its influence, and yet a lot of people don't care for their culture. My view is all culture has power while empires come and go.
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When I think about cultural power, I think the US is still incredibly influential (especially tech) but I see the point re: influence on political ideology. But are “empires” today the same as they were? Or is pop culture the empire? 🤔
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Videos of their youths failing badly at basic general knowledge like naming different countries in this world are still quite astonishing to watch
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And yet their favorite websites are American. Checkmate.
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North Americans learn that nobody outside North America talks about North America…
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How much of that is just compared to when Trump was a part of the cultural conversation? Much like when a young Bernard Arnault asked a US cab driver if he knew who the French president was. He didn’t. But he sure as hell knew Christian Dior
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glad they can focus on the good things about america like our movies, music, & apps
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Most definitely America no longer feels like the focal point It almost always has in the past
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As someone who’s been traveling the last few years I’ve been thinking about this a lot.
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Meh, I’m not so sure about this.
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It is still interesting to me the foothold that "USA" has f.e. in Austria. A lot of times I am seeing USA branding on different food items, and generally young people prefer the "USA" experience (as in restaurants and such) (Image attached is found in Austrian supermarkets, and is completely Austrian made)
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Can confirm this is true in Lisbon. No one here talks about US culture or politics besides the rare occasion. Even the ex-pats from the US aren't talking about it.
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They are making their microworld with this culture
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