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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
A heuristic for how freedom-friendly your urbanism aesthetic is: If you draw an image of a city with your urbanism aesthetic, and then replace a random building with a McDonalds, how much worse does it become? Lunarpunk clearly beats solarpunk on this dimension.
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Brent Fitzgerald
@bf
As cinematic aesthetic sure, but for utopian ideals no. Solarpunk/hopepunk is an intentional exploration of humanity where things get better, not worse. A McDonalds has no place in many people’s ideas of utopian futures. Is capitalist brand friendliness more free? It depends on what who we’re freeing to do what.
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yesyes
@yesyes
Always knew that this was peak aesthetic(it can't get any worse with the inclusion of McDonald's)
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Devon
@devon
That is one branch of solarpunk art, but I prefer this interpretation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqJJktxCY9U It's also more resilient to the McDonalds test (although not perfectly so) I hope the Dear Alice style is what people think of as solarpunk becomes more mainstream, though I think it's unlikely
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depatchedmode
@depatchedmode
The main vein of solar punk aesthetic is definitely tracking the worst parts of high modernism. There’s a completely different version of it that’s more about an ethos of grid independence and could totally accommodate a bunch of different looks.
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drew fagin 🌊
@drews.eth
would def eat here
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hww.eth
@hww
The brands should find a way to fit the local aesthetic style. For example, this is a McDonald's in Kyoto:
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shazow
@shazow.eth
Imagine a world where branding is all done in an AR overlay, so we can opt out when we don't feel like it.
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polynya
@polynya
In a solarpunk world, McDonalds would look very different, wouldn't it? I don't see why it can't fit in
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maurelian
@maurelian.eth
When I see Solar punk imagery, I can’t help but imagine the dark and dingy scenes elsewhere which support the happy green image.
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Dan
@dberg
The solarpunk scene is unnecessarily uniform…the buildings don’t all have to look exactly the same, and if there were a bit more variety I think a McDonalds would fit in nicely. Ban the massive Golden Arches though, those things are atrocious eye sores.
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@sanchitram.eth
I actually think the right thing for the US is “Autozone”, not fast food, bur I see your point
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albert
@thatguyintech
so tokyo?
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@degencast.eth
How do we rank McDonalds friendliness for Singapore, HongKong and Tokyo?
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Sean Brennan
@seanwbren
If the golden arches were "green leaf arches" then it would fit in. So brands could shift to include the green aesthetic. But the lunarpunk streets looks more livable/walkable than the solarpunk apartment high-rises, to cherry-pick an argument from your images
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@ahn.eth
What's your favorite thing to order at McDonald's? Or rephrased, if you had to get something at Mickey D's, what would you get?
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@randomishwalk
ok but what about staten island — is landfill-nature-punk a thing?
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@m-j-r.eth
one hallmark of some areas, outside of urbanism, is how they tolerate McDonalds/AirBnB/etc. many desolate areas in the US coexist with "that one Walmart"
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@scorz.eth
ya honestly i’m a big fan of tokyo urbanism. allowing for lots of tiny restaurants, bars and shops vertically creates a huge diversity of experiences. i love the zakkyo buildings and yokochō alleyways https://www.discoursemagazine.com/p/why-tokyo-works
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Joey Roth | Dyad
@joeyroth
solarpunk is the antithesis of punk
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