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Are validators in the same cluster (eg same exchange, same user) more likely than unrelated validators to miss attestations at the same time? If so, can we tweak rewards to favor decentralized staking? Possibly yes. https://ethresear.ch/t/supporting-decentralized-staking-through-more-anti-correlation-incentives/19116
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i dont know vitalik but you should def consider claiming your degen airdrop and donating it to a good cause ser have a great week fren
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protocol design is the literally coolest job on earth It's like playing the sims or Black & White 2 but with billions (trillions?) of real money dollars $
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i like this proposal
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Don't you think that big operators can just run many validators in many different machines and even geographical locations? iow unless I am missing something this is trivially gameable?
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anti-fragility through clever incentives this is so cool I'm pretty sure this line of thinking will also be effective for promoting client diversity, not just same internet connection infra, but not sure about this simple mechanism being sufficient. Crazy idea: fuzztest validators live with weird blocks and penalize
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Makes sense, but what’s the benefit of even more decentralized staking? Is it something that would be noticeable by an end user?
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Possibly
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I think an unfortunate reality is that this is likely to cause staking providers to shift their operations to be more distributed rather than more decentralized. We want more distinct entities staking rather than more distributed nodes. I think in-protocol delegation is likely a more promising approach.
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Keep up the great work VB!
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@fishbiscuit
Oh this would really change the game
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its looks like 🐭🤔
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That’s a great point that I just learned yesterday through discussion in Hong Kong 🥺
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Why he left^ To nerd out on Farcaster with us.
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Who’s doing the clustering and labeling tho? A given validator operator can do a lot of work to decentralize their infra, clients, setups, etc - and they should be incentivized to do so. If insert id clustering and tweak rewards based on it you run into that question: who says who is who?
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you’re back!!! 420 $degen
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Read the post, the issue is that this can be easily defeated by some network setup, you can fake decentralization just by using proxies, and still depend on the same infrastructure with all validators. The reality is that's almost impossible to differentiate between fake and actual decentralization.
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