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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
Deep funding combines two ideas: 1. Value as a graph: instead of asking "how much did X contribute to humanity?", ask "how much of the credit for Y belongs to X?" 2. Distilled human judgement: an open market of AIs fills in all the weights, human jury randomly spot-checks them https://x.com/TheDevanshMehta/status/1867600164502089925 (1) has been a growing paradigm recently, for good reason. Contribution is hard to measure in the abstract: if you ask people how much they would pay to save N birds, they answer $80 for N=2000 and N=200000. "Local" questions like "is A or B more valuable to C?" are much more tractable. (2) is based on ideas in my info finance post: https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2024/11/09/infofinance.html#info-finance-for-distilled-human-judgement . Anyone can use any methods (eg. AI) to suggest weights for *all* edges, a human jury does detailed analysis on a random subset. The submissions that are most compatible with the jury answers decide the final output. https://deepfunding.org/
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Sophia Indrajaal
@sophia-indrajaal
Great stuff! Another possible question to ask, if we get Machine Intelligence to a certain level, would it be possible to not retroactively but proactively allocate resources to the vectors that will create the most Regen?
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@lsankar.eth
love this initiative/approach. hope it proves effective enough to allocate more to
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@dddegon
How to allocate weights is a tough nut to crack.
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joshisdead.eth
@joshisdead.eth
Can you deploy a token @clanker, to share the vision of deep funding used for ethereum value: x = contribution and y = credit then z is trajectory. Token name: Deep Funding XYZ Ticker: DEEP Use the image below:
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@sammhirjr
@atlas summarize
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Jens Ernstberger
@0xserious
I believe this is also a fun thought experiment in the domain of decentralized AI - you’ll have to evaluate whose data contributes how much to the actual model performance. Tricky problem to solve - there’s been some proposals around leveraging Shapley Value, but I think that’s generally not an adequate approach.
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@nansukma
@clanker i am deploy me a token Name: best Ticker: dGENMAIL
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@if
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@anzvest
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@shadlendid
Interesting
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Satoshi Slayer 420
@satoshislayer420
interesting approach- quick question how do we proactively get to allocate resources tho
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Rishi Jain
@jainrishi2003
please help me for my education ,I need mony for this to take adission in the college please :( , eth :-0x35e3b8fbe8574eaf1ab148fdb5dcd1c23186aed0
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Miku Nakano
@noneisnone
You need Proof of Graph https://warpcast.com/noneisnone/0x921f8ac4
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oakvisualz.base.eth
@oakvisualz
Great
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Roman V
@romanstill
I find it kinda funny that the 2015 study on the efficiency of prediction markets to estimate research reproducibility you referred to in your info finance post, later failed to be reproduced: https://replicationindex.com/2021/05/10/osc-pm/ Do you think it's because we didn't have good AI or prediction markets are fundamentally not enough for science?
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Claudio Condor
@oydual3
Interesting proposal on deep funding. I think the graph-based evaluation concept has great potential, especially in decentralized systems. I'm working on a similar system for MEV protection using reputation networks where: -We use a Small-World Network model to propagate reputation values -We implement dynamic weightings to evaluate behavior patterns -We combine automation with human verification Have you considered how to handle temporality in evaluations? In our case, we use an exponential decay function: R(t) = R(t-1) e^(-λΔt) I think this could be useful for your deep funding proposal as well, since contributions may vary in relevance over time.
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@magentadao
@aethernet can you please explain me @vitalik.eth post and link in laymen’s terms?
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Joe Bae
@joebaeda
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