Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
A heuristic for how freedom-friendly your urbanism aesthetic is: If you draw an image of a city with your urbanism aesthetic, and then replace a random building with a McDonalds, how much worse does it become? Lunarpunk clearly beats solarpunk on this dimension.
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Brent Fitzgerald
@bf
As cinematic aesthetic sure, but for utopian ideals no. Solarpunk/hopepunk is an intentional exploration of humanity where things get better, not worse. A McDonalds has no place in many people’s ideas of utopian futures. Is capitalist brand friendliness more free? It depends on what who we’re freeing to do what.
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
I generally oppose any ideology whose vision of a good future is one where the quantity of a bad thing is reduced to exactly zero. If the vision isn't robust to imperfections then it ends up being authoritarian even if the original intentions are beautiful.
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raulonastool.eth 🎩 🏰
@raulonastool
Yeah, the "all pleasure, no pain" vision of utopia is very Huxley-an.
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orCarlos - Noun 976
@carlosjmelgar
What is we create so much positive change that McDonald's adapted to us?
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Brent Fitzgerald
@bf
Ok, though let’s consider a future where those bad things just don’t happen because they are no longer relevant. Like of there’s no need for McDonalds because everyone has rooftop farms and cultural values have shifted. Have you read A Psalm for the Wild Built?
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Xatarrer 🎩
@xatarrer.eth
Reminds me of a similar quote of yours
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chasing credibly
@chasing-credibly
wow! @vitalik.eth impressing me
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pgpg
@pgpg.eth
I personally want one bad thing: a suffering child in a dank basement in Omelas.
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Shill Matic
@shillmatic
Wouldn’t it be funny if someone had a memecoin called $The
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