Vitalik Buterin on Warpcast

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Vitalik Buterin

https://twitter.com/capitalgrug/status/1755275416594473038 I think that if you think this way, you need to have a clear story of what even is the goal of [whichever chain you support]. How does having apps on your servers instead of facebook's servers make the world better?

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There are no users without devs, so if the devs care about decentralization, it matters. They also go on to imply that “users” are just price speculators. Very narrow minded view of web3, IMO.

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I think it’s something like ‘system semi-permissioned by ppl like us (Val cartel instead of tradfi of fb servers)’ rather than unpermissionable system Which certainly is useful! But may not be as useful for multiple generations (ie when sol validators become the ‘establishment’)

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Vitalik, really like what you are doing. ETH holder here. How about ethereum nodes runs majority on big tech servers? there is some truth that mainstream people who holds crypto don’t know about decentralization. https://cointelegraph.com/news/3-cloud-providers-accounting-for-over-two-thirds-of-ethereum-nodes-data

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One heuristic would be to ask yourself on what chains would the prediction market Augur be likely to survive (assuming you think Augur is good for the world)?

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There are no goals. It's technology that shape us, not the other way around. Maybe unfortunately.

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@nickprince.eth

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I agree. There’s a threshold and for most people more decentralized than twitter, Facebook, etc is a value add. However, most people don’t know they have agency… I’ve witnessed this first hand in college so they take what is given to them. Therefore, the ability to take your casts/followers with you is huge

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Oh shit he cross warp quote xeeted grug

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Maybe it’s not about making the world better and it’s just about doing whatever is in your personal best interest Building on Facebook has risks, plus they take a huge profit share, can kill your app etc Building on public blockchains removes platform risk

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We need more ppl whose actions are lead by the concept of “how does this make the world better?”

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Many Ethereum thought leaders do not care about decentralization. That's why users don't either Easy to get caught up trying to pump your centralized bags instead

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Best chain is where the best culture is. I am leaning towards Base. But also love the ethos of Optimism. Reminds me of early ethereum days with culture built around public goods rather than numbah go up.

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@dawdee God has spoken wowow

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Is it decentralized enough to stop the warlock nerfs? Or does it have to be decentralized enough to debate 🤔

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Orli 🎩🔵⛓️

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My take is that the e.g. Solana leadership think that getting a big userbase first matters more than anything, and then after that they'll like figure something out.

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yeah! how does having an app on any server makes any sense? we should all go back to basics and only meet in person! #downwiththeservers

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Yes. Would it be a good idea to distinguish between distributed and decentralized blockchains? A clear nomenclature could help to categorize?

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