Farcaster should have (near-)unlimited length messages like twitter.

Having used it for a while, I feel like twitter's long message feature improves its user experience and its usefulness for high quality discussion.

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280 chars definitely forces a different style. It is possible to successfully make threads with it, but quite hard. It's better for exposition than argument.

eg. you can get more content into a tweet by putting an image into it, and that's more amenable to making an independent argument than to responding to people.

This is the first request I made to @dwr.eth after joining Farcaster. It's amazing people believe 280 characters enables high-signal conversations where there's a lot of nuance and subtle ideas. I guess it boils down to personal standards for writing--my standards can be painfully high in many cases.

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I like how only the first 280 chars are visible, so there is still some incentive to be succinct.

140 was too little; it encrgd 2much overoptimiz'n and u got lotsa barely readabl txt. 280 is a great balance.

it was an artform remaining within the character limit 

i miss it too

Honestly, I miss the days when everyone was limited to just 140 characters on Twitter.

why not just have it collapsable so like u have to expand it to read longer casts, but like just leave it up to the user to decide how they wanna do it (link it frame it cast it whatever u wanna do) ? i dont get why that has to be something the developers decide so exactly

We've asked readers if they like long tweets from a UX standpoint and most people prefer to read a longer post in a browser / link vs. in feed.

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I prefer threads but everyone seems to hate those now. Long casts would be better than screenshot essays at least.

Substack has long notes and it’s a bit tedious. Twitter is just ranty mostly. Threads interrupt ranting fugues a bit and make them bearable.

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I attached a 30MB video to one of my casts yesterday. I don't think a little bit of extra text on casts is going to be the thing that makes a dent in storage costs.

I think we would need a form of "multidimensional storage pricing" to introduce this.

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larger message length likely has implications for hub decentralization <> performance tradeoffs

are we maybe looking at hub L2? cc @bpetes.eth

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9/ <rant>I just want to take a quick break from this long-ass thread to mention how much the cast length limit of 320 characters sucks on Farcaster. I don't enjoy crafting those threads any more than you enjoy reading them. @dwr,eth, please let me use n storage slots for n multiples of 320 bytes!</rant>

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That’s a nice idea 🤝 take this from my humble allowance 1 $degen

1 warp per additional character you go beyond the limit - i'd def pay sometimes lol

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Content living on this social graph is less important than leveraging said graph for distribution imo

That's why I like @paragraph so much. Allows for more of the longer thoughts, but still digestible in the feed. The content, though, doesn't live on the social graph — it lives in its own social graph.

+1, I often change my posts because of the lack of length

agreed, this would be my preference as well. default collapsed ofc

Would allow for porting over more discussions that happen on external forums like eth research to Farcaster

If you can’t fit into the character limit. You’ve said too much. Be more concise.

someone should create a channel for /longform thoughts and posts

i, personally, hate reading long posts on the feed. if i want a book or an article ill go elsewhere