Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
To me, this counts as GPT4 passing the Turing test. Still an important update that it took all the way until GPT4 to get there! https://twitter.com/tobyordoxford/status/1791030333812383960
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Venkatesh Rao ☀️
@vgr
The Turing test started as loose talk in a cafeteria and is most useful as loose talk imo. To continue the loose talk, I think of this as humans mostly failing the Toon test of whether they are cartoons.
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
Sure but it's also by far the single most famous socially accepted milestone for "AI is serious shit now". So it's good to remind ourselves that the milestone has now been crossed.
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Venkatesh Rao ☀️
@vgr
On AI, I think “socially accepted” is practical important the way religion is on politics. Most US politicians are likely atheist but affect a serious theist posture to be electable. I have a feeling Turing test, “AGI” etc are the new public-theism things
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
It's a schelling point. Useful both for coordination, and individually to help guard yourself against moving goalposts.
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Venkatesh Rao ☀️
@vgr
Feels like its outlived its utility tbh. Personhood indistinguishability feels like a side quest. I’m mostly fascinated by the non-anthropocentric, non-human timescale schelling points now. I’m trying to make “oozy intelligence in slow time” happen https://studio.ribbonfarm.com/p/oozy-intelligence-in-slow-time
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Venkatesh Rao ☀️
@vgr
Also moving goalposts are great! It’s a feature not a bug. Infinite game football. Both the idea of “human” and the idea of “AI” should be indefinitely evolving, not static constructs. We’re not theorems we’re processes of being/becoming.
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