True or False: most things we call decentralized, including Ethereum, is actually Federated? 

T/F: Federated is good enough

Name your favorite decentralized product.

I strongly disagree, but still trying to find the right words. Federated systems are non-fungible feifdoms of participants (usually server silo/client denizens), whereas decentralized systems have interchangeable nodes (p2p, like eth full nodes or validators).

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I strongly disagree, but still trying to find the right words. Federated systems are non-fungible feifdoms of participants (usually server silo/client denizens), whereas decentralized systems have interchangeable nodes (p2p, like eth full nodes or validators).

Related thread: https://warpcast.com/shazow/0xee5571

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Currently: WhatsABI

More importantly: When a participating federated silo disappears (or gets bought by Elon), its denizens go with it. When a decentralized system node goes down, nothing happens, and another fresh one can take its place just as easily.

The thing that throws most people off is that it's trivial to build centralized layers (or intermediaries) on top of decentralized systems. For example, I can always insert myself between you and a decentralized system as a centralized intermediary (e.g. KYC'd exchanges), but that does not negate the base layer.