bleu
@bleu.eth
funny how -woke- got such a bad rep lately, what's the alternative tho? Being a sleep sheep. Ready to march to slaughter when asked, no questions asked.
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Purp
@purp
Considering how woke would appear it would appear the alternative is racist lmfao
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DV
@degenveteran.eth
Extreme anything is bad... The pendulum is swinging to the other side Hopefully eventually it will get closer to a middle ground
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šŗššš
@swim
need middle ground like when Barack was president.. but take that statement with the grain of salt because I was also a child and didn't know politics š
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Purp
@purp
Historically a far right government movement has ever been stopped by neo liberalism or any other "middle ground" ideology And like again the pendulum didn't swing to the left, neo liberal capitalists used identity politics to attack populist worker movements The same way that right wing capitalists have used race baiting to break up populist worker movements. It's all same side of the coin bby
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DV
@degenveteran.eth
Yeah, I hear you. I think a lot of peopleāprobably mostāarenāt fully on board with either extreme. Thereās definitely a pattern of powerful interests using division to keep people distracted from bigger systemic issues. And history shows that when the pendulum swings too hard in one direction, thereās always a reaction in the other. But I donāt think the answer is to just pick a team and ride or die for it. The world is too complex for that. People are frustrated, and rightfully so, but Iād rather focus on practical solutions that bring people together instead of feeding into more division. At the end of the day, most of us just want a fair shot at a good life without getting caught in the crossfire of political games.
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Purp
@purp
But again there wasn't a swing to one direction, liberals are center right/left depending on the individual, but liberals aren't left. Also 62% of Americans belive in nationalized health care(https://truthout.org/articles/poll-support-for-government-ensured-health-coverage-at-nearly-2-decade-high/) 63 support free college (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/08/11/democrats-overwhelmingly-favor-free-college-tuition-while-republicans-are-divided-by-age-education/ ) 60% support a higher minimum wage (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/04/22/most-americans-support-a-15-federal-minimum-wage) 57% of Americans think billionaires area taxed to little( all though some polls I've seen up to 70 plus support) https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/43956-most-americans-support-raising-taxes-billionaires Not sure what is so extreme about this or why you think there's not widespread support
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DV
@degenveteran.eth
Thatās fairāthose numbers do show a lot of agreement on certain issues. I think where the disconnect happens is less about the policies themselves and more about how theyāre framed and implemented. Just because a majority supports an idea doesnāt mean thereās a clear, unified path to making it happen, especially when powerful interests on all sides manipulate the conversation. When I mentioned the pendulum swinging, I wasnāt just talking about policy but also cultural and political dynamics. The way people engage in discourse has become more polarized, and thatās what concerns me. If we canāt have reasonable discussions without everything turning into an ideological battleground, progress gets harder. At the end of the day, I think most people want practical solutions that improve their lives, not just endless debates about left vs. right. I just wish there were more spaces where people could actually work through differences instead of being forced into political camps.
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