polynya
@polynya
P2P + ZK - blockchain offers significantly superior decentralization, efficiency, privacy, verifiability, censorship-resistance and permanence The *only* thing blockchains are good for is strict global consensus Alas, many apps are being compromised into blockchains because of financial incentives over rational ones
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✳️ dcposch on daimo
@dcposch.eth
Agree with those except "permanence". In practice every single byte that has ever finalized on Ethereum is easily retrievable today, and that will remain true even with danksharding. I've tried many P2P protocols (dat, zeronet back in the day, torrents ofc) and links broke / showed "0 seeds" all the time
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
You'll probably like the new blog post that @v is writing.
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Kobi Gurkan
@kobi
Ties into Justin Thaler’s observation that we focused as an industry on verifier-optimized tech because of it, while prover-optimized tech can be super meaningful
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Liang @ degencast.wtf 🎩
@degencast.eth
Does the fact that "strict global consensus" are all built on top of financial incentive, affects the apps onchain?
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ManuAlzuru🥑
@manu
We need to go back to our hackers roots and do key signing parties 🎉 Then we need to build private by default social graphs with selective disclosure.
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depatchedmode
@depatchedmode
I keep saying strict, global *timely* consensus, because I suspect there are other ways to have strict consensus globally if you are willing to wait less than forever but more than 15 minutes.
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~sarlev-sarsen
@sarlev.eth
can i introduce you to our lord and savior, nockchain?
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GUNBOATs 🎩🇵🇸
@gunboats
the purpose of the system is what it does
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nx
@nxs
Very well said. I guess it's in human nature to seek to exploit easy financial incentives, which are somewhat fundamental to the blockchains we've designed. Which begs the question whether blockchains are actually solving anything.
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