Ngl recently I’ve immediately churned when trying any products that have anything to do with an ERC20 or points

building with @emo.eth / prev: manifold.xyz opensea.io

Hmm not sure I understand this.

We're in crypto - to pretend that tokens or points are not the single biggest unlock for creating a net new generation of product experiences feels weird to me.

I respect your desire to find crypto products that have PMF in the absence of incentives but hasn't been the case so far and probs won't for a long time IMO

Onchain is the new online - FID 206 -  cooprecords.xyz

Building the last mile delivery DePIN @nosh

If farcaster hits 1B qDAU do you think it will be because of points or tokens?

Not yet.

It has PMF within crypto but far from PMF in the real world.

I think it has the most PMF for any crypto consumer product that has been built thus far and it will find true PMF at some point in the next decade.