0xen 🎩
@0xen
Political ideology that cares about our exceedingly rare, fragile home, Earth, but also is competent, fair, non reactionary… who’s building this?
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Stuart
@olystuart
Isn't that just Communism? If it is allowed to develop, if we get a global internationalist cooperative of working class movements, if we can defeat fascism and imperialism... Then we can all focus together on solving our problems collectively and being as productive a society as possible in a healthy way.
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cryptocellaris.eth 🎩
@cryptocellaris
if you want to know how a centrally planned economy treats the environment, you should read about how the Soviet Union created industrial fishing boats that killed whales en masse, harvested the oil only, dumped the carcass, and then let the oil rot because the quotas were artificially high because electric lighting was displacing oil lamps
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Stuart
@olystuart
It's a straw man argument because nobody is trying to recreate the Soviet Union. We should learn from history and try to do better.
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cryptocellaris.eth 🎩
@cryptocellaris
sure, but at that point we should talk policy ideas instead of just shouting meaningless slogans which is why I gave a specific example of the failure of central planning that devastated the environment, basically for no reason other than that bureaucracies are slow and inefficient there is no point in replacing governance leadership en masse without concrete novel policy ideas, since history shows that power vacuums are usually filled by the power hungry, not those who are going to govern in the interests of the evidence, or the masses, or anyone but themselves
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