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New feature coming for ReadCast thanks to @novack for the suggestion. Share discussion items with a deeplink back to the book and discussion.

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how so? the land ended up authoritarian but under a different regime. by the same argument you could say in 1942 that the French Revolution “ended up authoritarian” after Germany conquered it, or that imperialist Japan “ended up a capitalist democracy.” not pedantic.

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the don’t all “end up as authoritarian” as in they evolve to become authoritarian. several were conquered by external authoritarians.

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but to answer your question, probably the VHA .

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i want to reiterate that i do not want to live under communism. i’m not here to argue it’s good or the best option for any country. i’m simply here to argue that “communism kills people” is a weak argument when the data points much more plainly to “authoritarianism kills people,” and many people who make that argument try to minimize how bad fascism is.

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there are several small-scale long-term examples and large-scale short-term examples that did fine internally before being overrun by external forces during a uniquely disruptive time (global unwinding of colonial monarchies). i guess it’s reasonable for people to disagree on how many experiments to allow before abandoning the hypothesis. but i find it strange to feel certain it’s the socioeconomic structure that is the part of the stack proven to cause mass murder when given the following data: 1. authoritarian communism was very murderous 2. authoritarian non-communism was also very murderous 3. non-authoritarian communism was not very murderous but has often (not always) been short-lived especially because most people making this argument also argue: 4. there are many examples of long-lived, widespread non-authoritarian communist policy today in Northern Europe, the USA, Canada, and elsewhere, which have not been very murderous

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i didn’t say anything close to that. i said you isolated the wrong variable. stalinism is “real communism” as are other non-authoritarian models. it’s authoritarianism that was proven to be bad in the 20th century, with or without the communism. the reverse was not proven in the 20th century.

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there aren’t any long-term, widespread examples because the authoritarians co-opted and then marginalized them, but: - the original soviet worker councils prior to lenin - makhnovshchina - worker collective farms like kibbutzim

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i’m not going to argue that communism is good, but this common argument is reductive and isolated the wrong variable. authoritarian communist governments killed many people, among whom were the advocates of communist republics and anarcho-communist societies, who were not responsible for such killing. instead of the insane implication that communism is somehow preferable to fascism, it should be noncontroversial that authoritarianism historically leads to mass killing regardless of economic structure.

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literally no grass in sight

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what is a christian rapper? aren’t like 98% of all famous rappers in history christian?

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worth recognizing that the entire idea of political support for crypto is historically strange. it started to break government & bank monopolies through superior alternatives. if now we fear that the us government has the power to permanently make or break crypto within a 4 year window, that exposes a drastic shift in expectations.

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Against choosing your political allegiances based on who is "pro-crypto" https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2024/07/17/procrypto.html

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tbf this isn’t just a political thing in the states… many examples of people aging in positions of authority with younger people having fewer such positions than in the past.

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unfortunately the days of a single app dominating the public text feed category are over. the network will forever be splintered now, and nothing will ever have the same breadth or serendipity again

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Let’s play a game: 1. If someone named the 15 most populous cities in Africa, how many do you think you would even recognize? 2. What country are you from? After the fact, we can compare 1 to actual.

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this is basically the core debate in american politics for at least 90 years.

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seems like most ppl have either embraced the chaos of social media or avoid it fully. is there a middle ground? what if there was a “slow media” social app: chose a handful of channels each day or week, can’t see anything else, go deep with other users. think of long form news magazine vs. 24hr breaking news

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