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@nonlinear.eth
@balajis.eth what happens to a so called network "state" when guys with guns show up? violence is what defines the line between a country and a country club, no? ofc one can point to places like singapore but these are the historical exception, not the rule
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@tomhoward
You really can't have a state without "resources" and for Network States those resources are digital, thus not physically confiscatible. Like any other small state which is able to maintain control over its resources, in engages in trade, and forms alliances with the local superpower for protection.
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@nonlinear.eth
network states would still be compromised of people tho, right? and people create and consume physical resources, yes? what would a network state trade in exchange for its physical protection? what happens when there are no buyers?
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@tomhoward
If you don't have valuable resources (services, products, commodities) then you aren't a state, you are just a community. If your online community forms a "state" around their valuable resources, in the non-physical world, they are mostly immune to physical attack, due to being widely distributed (and perhaps anon).
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@nonlinear.eth
“in the non-physical world” yes, but what about the physical world? (assuming not everyone is anon) i hadn’t considered “valuable resources” as being that definitive of a line. curious: how would you define the fundamental differences between states and non-states?
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@tomhoward
The classic definition of a "state" requires "territory" but imo "territory" is a wrapper for "resources" (including land). Either way, you need something to govern to have a government. As talent/skills is a resource, a "state" at the very least governs people's economic product. https://i.imgur.com/usbOlfj.jpg
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@tomhoward
Known people distributed over the entire world (non-physical community) are much more difficult to coordinate an attack on than a known small territory. You'd need to get local police to cooperate in all countries at once! Statistically improbable. If you are forming physical territory, get a powerful protectorate.
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