It just occurred to me that @vgr's formulation of AI as "a camera, not an engine" finally helps fill in the "unknown knowns" quadrant of Donald Rumsfeld's (in)famous 2x2 in a satisfying way.

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It just occurred to me that @vgr's formulation of AI as "a camera, not an engine" finally helps fill in the "unknown knowns" quadrant of Donald Rumsfeld's (in)famous 2x2 in a satisfying way. https://studio.ribbonfarm.com/p/a-camera-not-an-engine

"... [A]s we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know."

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That was from a 2002 press conference on the eve of the Iraq War. Rumsfeld is setting up a rather unusual 2x2 here, where *both* axis are "things we know".

But 2x2s have four quadrants, and Rumsfeld only describes three of them. What are "unknown knowns"?

Slavoj Žižek later tried to fill in the "unknown knowns" quadrant by postulating that it was knowledge that is widely understood but only at a sort of "subconscious" level, as truly surfacing that knowledge would be too destructive to the ego / status quo.

Slavoj Žižek later tried to fill in the "unknown knowns" quadrant by postulating that it was knowledge that is widely understood but only at a sort of "subconscious" level, as truly surfacing that knowledge would be too destructive to the ego / status quo. https://www.lacan.com/zizekrumsfeld.htm

I've always found Žižek's formulation unsatisfying. What Žižek is talking about is a sort of willful ignorance, while Rumsfeld's other cases revolve around *actually not knowing.*

So where does @vgr's work fit into this? Well, in "A Camera, Not an Engine", Rao reformulates AI not as a tool for expanding the frontier of knowledge, but rather a way to fill in voids that exist in the space of things we already know.

So where does @vgr's work fit into this? Well, in "A Camera, Not an Engine", Rao reformulates AI not as a tool for expanding the frontier of knowledge, but rather a way to fill in voids that exist in the space of things we already know. https://studio.ribbonfarm.com/p/a-camera-not-an-engine

What AI is doing is "discovering" thoughts / ideas / knowledge that is implied by existing thoughts / ideas / knowledge. "Filling in the blanks" in our existing knowledge space. It's *not* actually expanding the *frontier* of knowledge.

(How could an existing AI expand those frontiers? Even with access to the entire Internet, they're still "a ship in a bottle", capable only of sailing the seas or thoughts humans have *already* recorded in some way.)

(Also, as an aside, this means that a "discovery" made by an AI is more like a "discovery" in mathematics than a discovery in the physical sciences. Self-contained logical systems are not like the human world, which is a porous, unclear, and — for any one person — finite realm.)

Anyways, I think this says something interesting about science in the time of AI.

There's been a lot of excitement about using AI to discover new materials or as a tool for hypothesis generation. But really what's happening is that AI is finding new angles on known data sets.

Now, finding new angles on old data is important! One of the things that we're rapidly learning is that there's *a lot* of latent space in human knowledge. And filling in that space is going to bring *a lot* of benefits.

But it's also, in a very real way, all low-hanging fruit.

I suspect that what we're going to find is that AI is going to ultimately make weird science moonshots — things that can't really involve AI, because they're looking for truly *new* things — more important.

Because weird moonshots are how we expand the frontier. And AI is going to get *very* good at filling in the space *behind* that frontier.

This is going to make science *much* more exciting (amazing, horrifying, wonderful new things!), but also *a lot* less efficient (most moonshots fail, and most weird ideas come from the minds of crackpots).

Over the course of my lifetime (and stretching before), we've come to focus our research more and more on *application*. But "applicable" research is by definition research behind the frontiers. This is what AI's going to first accelerate, and then cannibalize.

We're going to need to start investing more in "fundamental science" and "basic R&D" in the AI era, and we're going to have to do so in a way that encourages more basic *physical* exploration and "far out" ideas.

We're going to need to start investing more in "fundamental science" and "basic R&D" in the AI era, and we’re going to have to do so in a way that encourages more basic *physical* exploration and "far out" ideas.

This is going to be hard, because in the short term AI's going to give us *a lot* of returns by filling in the gaps in the explored space of human knowledge — turning our "unknown knowns" into "known knowns".

But the *explored* realm of human ideas and knowledge is finite.

The process of turning "known unknowns" into "known knowns" is going to be important.

But even more important will be the process of turning "unknown unknowns" into "known unknowns".

Because only those two processes actually *expand* the frontiers of human ideas and knowledge.

@pmarca's contention that "it's time to build" has become something of a rallying cry among techno-optimists. https://a16z.com/its-time-to-build/

But in the age of AI, "it's time to build" is only half the picture.

"... [A]s we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_unknown_unknowns

Blogged a quick reaction to this along with another connection that emerged

Very interesting piece on current events (in particular the situation in India, which I’m not very familiar with).

That said, I think this take on “unknown knowns” is closer to Žižek's than my own. Though it also points to a stronger overlap between the two conceptions than I’d previously entertained.

Blogged a quick reaction to this along with another connection that emerged 

https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2024/01/24/unknown-knowns/