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Vitalik Buterin

To me, the biggest problem with "proof of human origin" is that "human-created" vs "AI-created" is a false binary. Most art and code I create involves many rounds of interaction between me and models. I suspect most interesting things made this decade will be like this https://x.com/trentmc0/status/1794333215290982702

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I can't believe I'm about to say this to you of all people.... But I think what people actually want is proof of work 😛. And by that I mean it feels better to reward humans who have put some amount of time into the content than to reward folks who ran a command in under a second, posted the result and moved on.

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I think folks are assuming that what I said is I think proof of work is the standard we should use to judge value 🙃. I want to assure you my feelings are more complicated and nuanced than that and depend a lot on context. If somebody produces content I enjoy using AI, I'm all about it. I use AI at work all the time.

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I slightly disagree, advancement demands change, the ability to craft a prompt and create a unique piece of art, writing, code or whatever you need is a skill worth rewarding. What should not be rewarded is low effort actions and creations, Human generated or AI assisted... That's my take

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Thanks god it is just a feeling of you and we don’t make decisions with random feelings.

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I think it's a matter of productivity, rewarding high productivity, not low

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Oh, the injustice! It matters only if the person that put in the effort is in school and you are a teacher trying to ensure the pupil is learning. Otherwise the value-ad to humanity is negative. Persisting on this sense of injustice will in a parabolic sense have one use slave labor instead of robots to build pyramids.

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exactly this 👏

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To me, it’s not about work amount, nor efficiency. But rather about value. Value comes from scarcity. It’s scarce because it’s difficult to attain. Even though tricky to prove value as explained, in a future where all info is compiled & analyzed, live; valuable and scarce input will stand out.

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I love that response. One of the odder things about the AI-assisted discussion is that AI’s llm is based on words that humans invented and used in (literally) countless ways. I learned to write by reading other people’s work and imitating it until I found my own voice. I am the sum of the writers before me.

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I am a human and I don't want this I don't care about your feeble humanism I want the best product only I don't care if it was made by an android or a chimp I just want life to get better faster

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Yeah very solid point 5 $Degen

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This is it really, but how on earth does one measure proof of work in this sense? And it gets confusing when we have a master producing incredible work in minutes, when the same work maybe took them 10x as much work 10 yrs earlier. What to do?

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