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Prior to AI superceding humans at chess, I had somehow thought that people would just stop playing chess once it had happened. In hindsight thats craziness; just because someone or something else is better at you than a thing doesn't make it unenjoyable. But what surprised me is that AFAICT people are still more interested in humans playing chess, than they are in AI chess games (I see Magnus Carlsen clips on social media, I don't see AI games replayed). I don't entirely know what the take away is here. Maybe that it's only partly about the chess, but also largely about the people and the stories and their struggles. Feel important though.
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I think this is very close to the distinction between the value of art NFTs vs JPEGs. When was the last time a crowd watched random anon online matches? On the other hand, there's tons of extremely popular chess streamers. It's all about who it is. Similarly, the value of the NFT is the attestation of the relationship with the creator, not the pixels of the JPEG that it's topic'd around. The value of playing games comes down to the social interaction or personal improvement. It doesn't matter that a JPEG can be right-click-saved or that a computer can always beat you.
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I think the main reasons is AI chess doesn't make any sense. Hell, even classical has way less viewership than rapid/blitz chess (lumping streaming in here), because the ideas are incredibly complex to the average player. I think as far as viewership it's more "can I understand what's happening in this position". The people and stories are definitely a help too, for example pogchamps is pretty popular every year as well, and they aren't 'good' but they tend to be more recognizable.
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@hyp
Subjective vs objective, internal vs external.
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Definitely about the people —viewers want to ride the emotional rollercoaster with the players. This player is sure to win... But wait! A surprise move turns the tables! Now they're on the defensive — look at him sweat! But then one brilliant move changes everything!
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We like agents we can relate to. :)
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I love playing online because you’re matched to someone close to your own ELO. We banter in the chat, and over a few games we know how each other plays. What’s the point of “getting to know” an AI player - they’re ephemeral!
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@atlas summarize this
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I think the takeaway is that people crave human connection and narrative, even in competitive pursuits. Chess is no exception, with spectators drawn to the stories behind the moves, not just the moves themselves.
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