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Matthew
@matthew
hmm
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Geoff Golberg
@geoffgolberg
Two separate issues here, gents: 1) DAU being inflated (accounts with zero casts don't impact this!) 2) Followers counts being inflated My original cast focuses on 1), whereas @ghostlinkz.eth's reply focuses on 2) FC DAU is overstated by at least 5X; the same doesn't hold true for Twitter, FB, IG, etc.
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Matthew
@matthew
re your 1) point, if you assume that most users are lurkers, then protocol DAUs != warpcast DAUs because lurkers don't post. So I don't disagree that the farmers/bots (and the financial incentives to bring them here) are an issue, but the warpcast DAU number could actually be close to that. We really have no idea. you guys are free to say what you want of course, but the point I'm much more interested in is how we should shape the culture of real people on here, and how we should try to expand that.
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Ghostlinkz
@ghostlinkz.eth
What efforts are you seeing from Merkle to show off how many real people are on here? The power badge was supposed to be that but I never felt they were serious about it from the beginning
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Matthew
@matthew
1. merkle doesn't owe us a daily chart of their DAUs? 2. the issue is in the definition of "real"—farmers might be real (as @gigamesh discovered), they're just not relevant to us because they're only trying to make money. 3. pretty much everything merkle ships is an effort to get more real ppl to use farcaster.
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GIGAMΞSH
@gigamesh
Yea I became much less interested in trying to actively ID bots after that whole episode. 😂 Also it’s kind of exciting to be in one of the most intense Sybil battlegrounds given it’s going to grow to every part of life.
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Ghostlinkz
@ghostlinkz.eth
1. If they do it, it builds trust, but you're right, its all up to them. The only thing we can do is produce our own charts and make our own observations which is what we are doing. It's also one of the benefits of an open graph 2. s/o to @gigamesh for not being scared to speak his mind (something that many ppl are too afraid to do on here because of the culture that has been cultivated by the leaders). He was also right, most of those accounts are involved in platform manipulation 3. Merkle also said that /degen was a great channel when ppl like me called out the bs. I was loud when I noticed that degen was creating a stupid amount of spam. I was ignored because metrics were going up and bad actors were getting their bag filled
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