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I want to talk about Carlo Ancelotti I was recalling a conversation I had about Milan with @gilles talking about the Golden Age of Milan, that Ancelotti coached: Kaka, Rui Costa, Maldini, Nesta, Seedorf, Gattuso, Pirlo, Cafu. That Milan. That was truly a wonderful Milan. Seedorf is a 10, Pirlo is a weird 10, and Rui Costa and Kaka are of course 10s, but of a different style. And Ancelotti somehow figures out a way to combine all of them together on a pitch and succeed. Some accuse him as being tactic-less. In this modern age of Football, the extrapolation of The Cruijffian Totaalvoetbal taken to its natural extreme -- through the Tiki Taka of Barça Guardiola, Gegenpressing of Jürgen Klopp, the new Brighton De Zerbi, Arteta's Arsenal, the Guardiola disciple. Even Unai Emery's new Aston Villa does a lot of positional play, and the new Bayern Guardiola / Man City Guardiola -- it feels like positional play is that's all there is these days. And then you realize, Ancelotti won the UCL, again??

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I think similar to this was Sir Alex Ferguson. Many forget the different incarnations of Man Utd. What most people don't know is before Sir Alex Ferguson was at Aberdeen, beat the Rangers / Celtics deadlock and Aberdeen won the league (for the first time in forever at the time) and somehow went on to Europe and found success. One of the things Sir Alex was known for was his man management. There are a only a few coaches left, I'd say that rely purely on getting the best out of their players. Folks like Guardiola, Arteta, and De Zerbi, (and now it seems Arne Slot of Liverpool as well) are all bought into this general thesis of using your players like pawns -- its all half spaces, and everyone has roles to play. One of the things, in a weird way that I see with Sir Alex, and also to a larger extent with Ancelotti, is in a way more freedom for the players to express themselves.

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we are Seedorf's goggles

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he can’t stop winning

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Really liked De Zerbi at Brighton and thought he was doing well. Not sure if you know but he is not the manager anymore. He manages Marseille now

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I quite agree with you Off topic De zerbi is criminally underrated

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This was a joy to read. Ancelotti is a true legend and has the charisma to coach the best players in the world. Even with his free spirit style, he is able to adapt when necessary - remember the work Vini and Rodrygo had to do defending against Man City in the UCL semis. Real Madrid was able to defend against one of the most complete attacking teams of the last few years and used creativity and pace to get the result. The final was just a formality. The never say die mentality combined with top players is a winning combination. The only dark spot in his career is probably the Everton episode where it was apparent that this style doesn’t really work with all teams - it requires world class players whereas the “system” managers can succeed with less talented squads too. Looking forward to the Don Carlo vs Herr Flick battle in La Liga this season.

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This is actually a great topic, I couldn’t agree more I actually feel the majority of his success is dependent on his ability to create a team out of individually exceptional players, that’s his greatest asset, and I think he’s probably the best at it Tactically, for me, a few managers might just be ahead of him, Cruyff & Guardiola most notably

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I heard of Sir Alex more than Ancelotti in football more

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July does football? wtf? No way is Seedorf a 10 but amazing thread

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apparently we have many overlapping interests

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Oh such a nice thread. I’m a huge Milan fan and I love to read such beautiful words for Mr Carlo Ancelotti my generation of Milan fans remember first of all Arrigo Sacchi, and probably you heard about him, who trained Milan and Ancelotti was a splendid midfielder of that team. Sacchi was the guy who really changed the game and in the few years he was Milan coach he won 3UCL, 2clubworldcup, and some SerieA scudetto. That was a real “suprematism” football, made by position players tactics and aggressive pressing. How it’s possible that Carlo Ancelotti (who was also assistant coach of Sacchi) went out from that experience with a completely different mindset? Ancelotti quote: I give defenders instructions on positioning because they need focus, but the attackers can do what they want. Mr Sacchi probably fainted to this words 😂

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Great writeup. A little bit of correction though, Pirlo was not any type of a 10. Oh and that Diniz's positionless philosophy is dead on arrival. I don't see it working anywhere in the top 5 leagues plus he's already failed with it in the Brazil national team. What do you think?

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