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A few things I found fascinating reading through the UAP hearing doc (I skimmed Gold and Shellenberger’s hearing docs ~400 pages) - UAPs are a real unexplained phenomena, we can say this w/o knowing what they are - first step is acknowledging this - vehicles have mass: they show up on visual spectrum, radar and infrared (they have a pretty big Radar Cross Section, they aren’t stealth) - vehicles are transmedium: seamlessly move through different mediums like water, air, space etc - show no signs of causing friction - vehicle has autonomous control: they react to the planes or other vehicles around it; they react based on what’s going on around them, that means they have sensors, a control system, path planning etc - vehicles have non combustion engine propulsion: field propulsion of some sort, manipulating gravity etc are properties that this vehicle has shown to exhibit - vehicles move in super high G maneuvers https://oversight.house.gov/hearing/unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-exposing-the-truth/
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the radar cross section + apparent transmedium properties are most interesting. that either means they "move" medium out of their path nearly instantaneously, or they do but are not impervious to some forms of radiation or, it is all an intentional illusion (by the perpetrator)
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The trans-medium & high G comments imply either drone or some sort of tech to minimize high-G forces, right? That and your field propulsion comment are the most intriguing to me.
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my assumption is that these are US military vehicles
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It’s hard for my logical, data based mind to make sense of. Then again, nearly every culture through recorded history has had some mythology about the spiritual world and things they couldn’t explain. Even today people all across the world have experiences science can’t explain. Just usually doesn’t make it to the Senate floor. 🤣
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We collectively operate under the assumption that our physical existence makes sense but a child can ask questions about it that we cannot answer. Probably at least one 20th century worth of physics gap in our understanding, if it’s even within our ability to grok it.
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this shit is so insane i love it
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The whole thing doesn’t sit well with me. If we accept the premise (that there are incontrovertible observational data of physical objects with mass performing intentional maneuvers that defy our understanding of gravity), then it necessarily makes the agnostic position (“we can say this w/o knowing who they are”) rather untenable. Because again, if we accept that premise, then they’re either alien craft or breakthrough human mil craft; there really isn’t any other physical phenomena that fit the data (such as meteorological events, weather balloons, sightings of Venus, etc). The alternative is to reject the premise, and question the data as either fabricated (e.g., psyop), erroneous (e.g., sensor artefacts), or misinterpreted (e.g., human error). So I think it boils down to: have we reached such a critical mass of independently-collected data that consistently cross-validate each other, and whose chain of custody is undisputable, that we must accept the premise? 1/n
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can I at least experience hitting the crypto jackpot before these aliens arrive and render any sort of monetary system useless
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