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GN Degens, Bans Update We're applying bans as we wrap up Season 12. In Season 13, all bans will be reset, giving everyone a fresh opportunity to earn tips. At the end of each season, we'll reevaluate activity using a rule-based analysis of our choosing to weed out behavior that closely aligns with farming. To prevent gaming the system, we won't announce rules in advance but will use various techniques to monitor how tips are being distributed.
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@jacek
For Season 13, we’re lowering the daily allowance pool from 5M DEGEN per day to 1M DEGEN. This change aims to reduce token inflation and extend airdrop sustainability for years. Additionally, we’re removing the tip4tip rule since it hasn’t been effective at curbing farming.
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Here’s what led to bans this season: 1. McDegen Bot Overuse: Users who sent 60% or more of their tips to the McDegen bot were banned. Mint.club wasn’t intended to be a quick monetization method, but unfortunately, that’s how it’s been used. 2. High Tip Reciprocity: We analyzed how often tips were reciprocated. For example, if you tipped someone 100 DEGEN and they tipped you back 100 DEGEN, reciprocity was 100%. We leaned in favor of users by analyzing the 40th percentile. If 60% or more of the users you tipped reciprocated at least 95% of the amount you tipped them, you were flagged. For example, if you consistently received 95 DEGEN back for every 100 DEGEN you tipped more than 60% of the time, you were banned.
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You can review the queries used for this season’s ban decisions here: https://dune.com/queries/4642888/7731858 https://dune.com/queries/4642778
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I think analytically, #2 makes sense, but in practice it is too stringent. This is exactly what gigamesh did when he blew up $farther. I would widen those bands so that only the most extreme “recipricators” are caught, most of these are not farmers.
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GM Jacek, This reciprocating tip rule could be a big setback for artists. Most artists want to thank and support the artist tippers by tipping, sometimes with the same amount of tip, sometimes less or more. Eventually at some point artists will get trapped in this rule, without the intention of farming. I think it's brutal to call it farming. We need to monitor and catch the big fishes, that's where the huge chunk of degen is usurped. But I really appreciate what you're doing in spite of a tough challenge.
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Honestly, I didn't understand the formula completely, but I think we don't have the dashboard for watching the 2 option
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Cough tipping circles with multiple folxs exist
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Honestly, I thought the rules were clear and straightforward. You had said that no one should tip more than 15 times to the same person, and we followed that. We didn’t use bots for tipping. But when I tip a fellow artist for the beautiful work they create, I never count how much I’ve received or how much I’ve given, and this matter is beyond our control! I believe your actions have caused distrust and disappointment within the community. I can no longer trust because I was an honest user, followed the rules, but was unaware of these hidden rules.
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Wen has snapshot been taken?
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None of the reasons you mentioned apply to me. Please check me again.
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Why do you ban people who participate honestly by introducing new rules in the middle? I want you to think about the victim's position
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I think you were absolutely right to clean things up, no doubt about it. I didn’t even know it was possible to manipulate tipping for personal gain using accounts like MacDegen or others. Here’s my point of view on tipping: if someone tips me, I continue interacting with them to thank them. As a result, they appear more on my timeline, I see their work, and they get more visibility. If, for example, they’re an artist or a creator, I’m naturally more likely to tip them back. I’m not going to spend hours scrolling through my timeline trying to figure out who deserves a tip or not. That’s why I tip in return—not just because they engage with my content, but because if they appreciate my work, chances are I’ll also connect with their art, their creations, or what they share. We likely have common interests.
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But when using microsub this second point might come into effect or not? Cc: @downshift.eth
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hoping this account can be checked out too, currently on the leaderboard and only got tips from the same person through microsub
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Is there a way we can keep an eye on this so that we can avoid being banned? At this point I’m not sure I want to tip incase I get banned again
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The tiping rule needed to be revised, but not like this. I've returned a bit more to almost everyone who tipped me degen to repay their kindness. Many others do the same. I’ve also followed the tip for tip rule. My main goal has always been to be present and share my art on Warpcast, not to farm degen. I'm grateful to you @jacek , but it bothered me; seeing that I’m being labeled as a farmer saddens me. Please first, clearly explain the rules to your child, and if they don't follow them, punish them🤷‍♀️
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